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    Ha ha, "Electric" cars" who would have thought

    Tick tock with this junk.....and its not even mainstream yet, and, this is where they are made with thousands of charge points
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    The infrastructure is still very much in its infancy compared to the vehicle sales and it just shows how popular these vehicles are for the charging demand to outweigh supply. It will grow and eventually swing round to there being more charging stations than fuel stations. A fair while off yet but it will happen.
    It was also over the holiday period where it's always going to be the busiest time. Any other time of the year and they would have had no problem with their journey/route/charging.
    I can never understand the hate for electric cars and new technology. There's plenty of rods/retros and kit-cars running battery power that look like real fun and there'll be ****loads more being built in garages the world over.
    Sure, they won't sound as nice as a V8 burble or screaming 6 obviously, but they'll still be a blast to drive.
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    A big part of the appeal of muscle cars, hot rods and cars in general is the internal combustion engine. Not just the sound but the mechanical nature of it. Electric cars will never hold the same appeal to me. however quick. Never mind the faux green credentials, the inability of the national grid to provide the power, or the lack of a decent charging infrastructure (which will never happen, because everything is half arsed in this country - they still can't provide a decent public transport network after all this time) Government will bludgeon it through anyway, then tax electric car owners to death when they have no alternative transport option. Thank God I'm old enough for fossil fuel power to just about see me out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stiff View Post
    The infrastructure is still very much in its infancy compared to the vehicle sales and it just shows how popular these vehicles are for the charging demand to outweigh supply. It will grow and eventually swing round to there being more charging stations than fuel stations. A fair while off yet but it will happen.
    It was also over the holiday period where it's always going to be the busiest time. Any other time of the year and they would have had no problem with their journey/route/charging.
    I can never understand the hate for electric cars and new technology. There's plenty of rods/retros and kit-cars running battery power that look like real fun and there'll be ****loads more being built in garages the world over.
    Sure, they won't sound as nice as a V8 burble or screaming 6 obviously, but they'll still be a blast to drive.
    I do not agree, its going to fail when full use kicks in, it wont work, the interest is purely because its trendy, that is why its so popular at the moment
    Battery powered rods and kit cars are fun items only, try setting off to the Nurburgring in one.....see you there, eventually LOL

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    Its one of the reasons Hybrids are being pushed now, volts only does not work, its a compromise.....for oh, about £60 thousand quid

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    Try a little experiement at your local petrol station.

    Check how many cars go through their forecourt in an hour and how long each one is there.

    Next work out where the hell they are all going to park while taking at least 1/2 hour for a 'quick' charge.

    Personally think eletric is also being pushed by the main manufacturers to make profits replacing existing IC engines.

    Alternative fuel is the real answer .
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    Quote Originally Posted by kapri View Post
    Try a little experiement at your local petrol station.

    Check how many cars go through their forecourt in an hour and how long each one is there.

    Next work out where the hell they are all going to park while taking at least 1/2 hour for a 'quick' charge.

    Personally think eletric is also being pushed by the main manufacturers to make profits replacing existing IC engines.

    Alternative fuel is the real answer .
    But which alternative?
    Ethanol is derived from plants (corn, sugar beet etc) which requires land to grow. "Sorry you can't build any houses here we need this land to make fuel for the cars"
    Hydrogen is perfect except it's almost impossible to store needing very high pressure or ultra low temperatures.
    Bio diesel. Well it's still diesel which is being phased out due to pollution.
    This only leaves batteries, unless I've missed something.
    Well I have, and that would be to get rid of the private car altogether, which is not as far fetched at it may sound.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_car-free_places
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stiff View Post
    The infrastructure is still very much in its infancy compared to the vehicle sales and it just shows how popular these vehicles are for the charging demand to outweigh supply. It will grow and eventually swing round to there being more charging stations than fuel stations. A fair while off yet but it will happen.
    It was also over the holiday period where it's always going to be the busiest time. Any other time of the year and they would have had no problem with their journey/route/charging.
    I can never understand the hate for electric cars and new technology. There's plenty of rods/retros and kit-cars running battery power that look like real fun and there'll be ****loads more being built in garages the world over.
    Sure, they won't sound as nice as a V8 burble or screaming 6 obviously, but they'll still be a blast to drive.
    There are certainly issues. An electric street rod is like a vegan sausage - pathetic, unnecessary and inferior. It's not that there is anything fundamentally wrong with electric motors as a power source for mass-market vehicles but it is the next step in the decline of the automobile that has been happening since the 1970s, when zealous state control masquerading as concern for the environment and public safety really started to make itself felt. If my gormless next-door neighbours want to replace their stupid Land Rover Discovery (for the rigours of suburban Surrey) with an electric car, that's fine by me. I think what most of us are concerned about is how it's going to affect us as enthusiasts.

    We all respect cars as mechanical objects. Mechanical principles are easily understood and mechanical systems are easily worked with. It is within the scope of most people to carry out basic repairs and modifications. If these jobs were beyond the layman, hot-rodding would never have come about. Early electric cars, like La Jamais Contente and American efforts from Edison, Detroit, Columbia et al. are not complicated and can be worked on, but they proved practically inferior to combustion-engined cars. Modern car technology has increasingly come to rely on complex computer systems that control a lot of the vehicles major functions, and to attempt to fix or improve these requires specialised knowledge and expensive equipment. If electric cars totally displace combustion-engined cars, it will be the end of amateur customising.

    Secondly, it's a con. We all know (and turn a blind eye to the fact) that raping the earth's resources to generate electrical energy isn't necessarily all that good. The government knows this better than anyone. As soon as combustion-engined cars are a distant memory, something else will have to be taxed and - oh, look, now electric cars are the problem, like it suddenly changed its mind about diesel.

    Thirdly, it isn't remotely necessary. Vehicle emissions can be hugely lowered by converting a car to run on liquid propane or hydrogen. I don't pretend to totally understand how because information on these alternative fuels is strangely hard to find, but that's the sort of new technology we should be pursuing. It's unfair to imply that anyone who opposes electric cars is fearful of new technology. I, for one, am grateful for computers and internet up to a point. I'd be lost without my digital camera. I'm excited to see what can be achieved by 3D printing and laser welding, and I'm keen to explore the possibilities of alternative fuels. I just don't want to have electric cars forced on me. Change is meaningless by itself. We must know how to separate good change from bad change. I want good change but I feel we're being coerced to accept bad change.

    It's too much for me to care what other people do with themselves. I know that beauty is an intrinsic aspect of quality of life and that's why a lot of safety legislation needs to be repealed; to encourage this, people should stop buying ugly new cars and return to beautiful older cars. However, I realise this won't happen because, by and large, the rich and poor alike have no taste. I'll concede and let them dwell in their consumerist mediocrity. Yet several political parties had, in their latest manifestos, promises to ban the sale of new combustion-engined cars by a given date. Now other people can do what they like, but I want the freedom to choose. If an electric car can be made genuinely better than a combustion-engined car, I will buy it. In the meantime, I will insist on the freedom to reject an inferior product.
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    Electric is coming, no matter the reason or longevity.

    Anyone see the sky news boxing day 'feature' all day long.

    Company in LA converting classics to crashed Tesla motors. One of the wealthy clients gold chainer wet liberal embarrassed by wealth goaty beard knob end said it was the way forward to own a classic converted. In his case an old 911.

    As said that kinda stuff is a novelty fashion for the followers who think they're creative leaders :****er:

    Enjoying the smell of oil, rumble of cam overlap and burning rubber is already a niche club. I know what club I'm in
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    But,but,but..greta told me electric was good..?


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