All Tesla vehicles were affected a few days ago by a communication 'issue' - Harley Davidson's Livewire leccy bike has a charging 'issue' owners are being advised to only charge at dealers.
Just left Warr's Harley Davidson shop on Kings Road, Chelsea. Well fook me, they have their electric bike in the window and offering test rides, outside there are three electric charging points with two Teslas and a Jag.
The recessions biting deep huh :pmsl:
Electric Harley,? the fkn things hardly run from week to week with a (sort of) petrol engine from new, never mind "buzz buzz, fizz , fizz" LOL.
Trendy shit, nothing else.
I simply can't understand why people think electricity if still the answer?
All you have to do is stand outside a single petrol station and see how many cars go through in an hour and how quickly they refuel . The look at that number needing somewhere to park whilst gettinga 4-6 hour charge ?
That's without considering integrating power supply system sinto every town on agrid that is often close to peak as we stand now...and how the electricity if going to be generated and the cost to the planets atmosphere on supplying batteries.
my sentiments exactly Kev .also the total destruction of the land mining the lithium out of the ground as well as the pollution making the batteries
"E" motorsports...ugh, they daren't show the fkn huge generators they have to use that run on fossil fuel... and the "spare cars" they have to have on standby because the junk wont perform for more than 30mins.
That bit is what snowflakes wont admit too, just run with the "trend of the day", its easier.
Crack on sheep public....i'll laugh from the outside of it all.
It doesn't matter whether it works or not, it's being seen to do the right thing. I read an interesting article in a magazine the other day that's fairly pro-leccy. Over its entire life an EV with a 24kWh lithium-ion battery will be responsible for just over 20 tonnes of greenhouse gases. 10 tonnes of this in the production of the vehicle. A new petrol equivalent vehicle would be approx 27.5 tonnes, 7.5 tonnes in the manufacture.
However, if you're driving a vehicle that's already made that will do 30mpg and you were to limit your mileage to 30,000 from here on in, over the lifecycle of a 48kWh leccy one it'd be greener to hang on to the old petrol one. OK, hypothetical stats, but when you consider many pensioners when they retire buy a new small vehicle, possibly now being persuaded to buy an expensive electric one, and then only do few miles, then there's a bit of a con going on.
But surely diesel was the new environmental saviour over petrol? Oh sorry, I forgot I've had a sleep since then.
Plug in electric vehicles are purely a stop gap whilst the manufacturers carry on developing hydrogen fuelled electric cars. There are already quite a few running in this country and the beauty of them is it takes as long to refuel as it does with our kind of cars.
I guess the current tech of plug in electric cars is purely to develop the necessary controls and motors for the future.
As a fleet manager I have to keep up with all this nonsense! :shake:
That’s enough being reasonable, I’m off to gargle some four star until normal service is resumed!
With fewer and fewer people able to afford to live in houses where do charge points go in blocks of flats - one can visualise fights between neighbours over use of charge points can't you?
The whole thing about electric vehicles is the ease of monitoring and controlling what we are all doing on a daily basis and the ability for governments to simply make lots of money with pay by mile usage and smart metering.
There was a bit on the radio the other morning about hybrids being more polluting than straight fossil fuel jobs as the engine is working harder to pull the heavy batteries around...
Electric vehicles have their place, in fact I learned to drive in one.
On the dodgem track which is where they belong!
A couple of days ago in Bath I saw a bloke drive past in an old pink milk float. It looked as if he was using it as a delivery vehicle. I wonder how you'd charge that, replace batteries etc.
I used to work in a large Vauxhall dealers back in the early 70's .The owner was a far sighted petrol head. Even back then we were selling an electric car (The Enfield ,made on the Isle of Wight) plus probably on eof the first LPG pumps in the country.
Just on 250,000 live in Portsmouth . Most of the housing stock is late 1800s flat front ,narrow frontage attached . The council has so far installed 8 charging points .
Most people end up parking at least one road away from where they live.
Talking to a guy who drives to and from Sweden three times a year from Kent, he uses a Tesla and says that you have to get into the routine of driving for three hours then take an hours break while it charges. He also confirmed that there are plenty of Tesla charging points all over Europe and free.
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I think in the future it won't be a rite of passage to have your own personal transport. They're saying many children aren't in a hurry to get a driving licence, probably because half of them go to uni etc and would have nowhere to put them. Because of the impracticalities (as kapri has flagged) and initial expensive it may be a shared ownership thing in the future, using one when you need it. A bit worrying Boris saying he wants to end petrol/diesel vehicle manufacture even earlier than he originally said. You can see this will have the knock on effect of fuel stations disappearing even faster, as they have been for the last few years. I remember when I first started out there were at least a couple in every suburb. If you ran out of fuel, you didn't have far to push!
So assume we all went out and got an electric car? So at 5pm to 7pm 25million people plug into to the grid. That wire between the pylons will have got so hot, the Pikies will be cutting up the wire on the ground. Where's the infrastructure for all this?
Just walking the dog a car round the corner was charging up.
House has no drive,and there's a path and grass area before you get to the road. So extension lead out of the house,across the path and grass to the car.
Charger plugged in and lying on the grass.
Thats going to work well once it rains
The politicians all think we have semi detached houses with our own driveways . I doubt they ever seen the real world.
Hydrogen is the way to go and I believe Toyota have cracked it. The MET are using twelve Hydrogen Toyota police cars around London just to see if they are viable
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The hydrogen tanks have to have very thick walls due to the nature of hydrogen molecules, basically the damn things fall through most things because they’re one of the smallest molecules around and they fit in the ‘gaps’ in the structure of storage containers.
The tanks are pretty much bullet proof because of this so that helps with the avoiding explosions side of things.
I wish I'd took a pictureof the Tesla that was running at the Pod the other week, it was plugged into a bloody big diesel generator, ironic or what?
It was running about 12.4 on the quarter which is quite quick but not the warp factor speed that they reckon they have and you can bet it was messed with and not standard.
One of our neighbours wrote an interesting article for our parish magazine about his trip abroad to meet up with his family. He didn't specify which electric car, but I believe it may be a Tesla. His summing up was that it proved to him that it is viable to use an electric car on such a trip, but... he did have to consult his "app" regularly and was concerned when he found himself down at below 5% charge. He also struggled with not having a valid card to charge at a certain charge point, and having an estimated charge time of ten or twelve hours at another. He was able to get by the "minor" problems by calling his wife, who sorted the charge card on her lap top or similar, and tracking down another charge point elsewhere... neither of which would have been possible if he hadn't had the necessary tech in the first place. But I'd imagine your average Tesla owner isn't short of a smartphone and the like. The other thing that came across in his write up was how much easier it was to find charge points in the U.K., than on the continent, despite a belief of mine that we are behind the likes of France and Holland in adopting this modern stuff!
I know a couple of people with Teslas and also a couple of people with Nissan Leafs. One mate with a Tesla showed me how the Tesla charge app thing worked, he put in a destination on the cars satnave and the car comes up with the route and tells you where the charge points are en route, it even tells you how long you would have to stop at each one (and how many charge points are in use at any one time) and it will adjust the route and charge times to make the journey faster. It is bloody clever and apparently it works however I don't think the normal "Plebs" electric cars have this sort of tech. But if you can charge it at home and only use it for short journeys the elctric car does make sense.
Same for short haul delivery vehicles as long as you have the charging facilities "in house" milk floats were viable even with old fifties lead acid tech so they must work now (Having said that our local milkman has a diesel Transit)
if you really want to save the planet ?