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    Towbar = need for tachograph

    We have been told today by somebody in the motor trade that because our works sprinter van has a towbar fitted ,under new regs we will need to fit a tacho, this dosen't sound right to me,as far as i was aware as long as we don,t exceed 3.5 tonne gross then there is no need for a tacho,or has it changed,can anybody clear this up.
    If its true how do we all stand towing caravans to rod runs or race cars to the strip,i think a tacho on the dash of a rods gonna spoil things a bit
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    Re: Towbar = need for tachograph

    i think thats a fact.the guy that took my 46 ford to austria turned up in a new discovery with a large tachograph on the dash,got speaking and he said because the overall weight was over 3 and a half tonnes he had to have one fitted.and because it was a buisness.

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    Re: Towbar = need for tachograph

    Just found this link http://www.roadtransport.com/Article...awbreakers.htm if in doubt give vosa a ring. could save a heavy fine.

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    Re: Towbar = need for tachograph

    Quote Originally Posted by Yella f100 View Post
    We have been told today by somebody in the motor trade that because our works sprinter van has a towbar fitted ,under new regs we will need to fit a tacho, this dosen't sound right to me,as far as i was aware as long as we don,t exceed 3.5 tonne gross then there is no need for a tacho,or has it changed,can anybody clear this up.
    If its true how do we all stand towing caravans to rod runs or race cars to the strip,i think a tacho on the dash of a rods gonna spoil things a bit
    KEV
    ive been told if its for trade purposes a tacho is required

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    Re: Towbar = need for tachograph

    Is this another reason most of the trucks used by race teams have 'Not for hire or reward' on the doors ?

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    Re: Towbar = need for tachograph

    Quote Originally Posted by great68 View Post
    Is this another reason most of the trucks used by race teams have 'Not for hire or reward' on the doors ?
    probably unfortunately though if they win anything even a horse rider winning a rosette is classed as reward and i do know someone who has recently been done on this one

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    Re: Towbar = need for tachograph

    It does seem to be for hire and reward as in this piece here.
    Vans with a gross train weight (GTW) of more than 3.5 tonnes, which are used for hire or reward, are subject to tachograph rules. This includes the 3.5-tonne panel vans, 4x4s and pickups that tow plant, cement mixers or generators.

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    Re: Towbar = need for tachograph

    not for hire and reward is put there probebly because they have no operators liscense, by law on lorrys you need an o liscense, orange your own goods, blue other peoples goods in uk, green other peoples goods anywere,

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    Re: Towbar = need for tachograph

    Looks like its a bit of a grey area,the link mick 72 put up is dated feb 2008 and they seem a bit unclear,am i right in thinking gross train weight is the tow vehicle trailer and whats on the trailer combined,i really should know the answer as a few years back boss sent me to pick up a dumper ,got pulled and got done on gross train weight ,which led into tacho territory ,ie not having one, leading on to failing to produce a tacho, leading on to failing to keep records etc etc you get the picture
    I think i got shafted for a total of 8 offences ,the boss got 11 i think cos he sent me to do the job even though he was not in the van,and he should have known the laws of this land
    I know ignorence of the law is no defence,but if we knew the laws inside out we would all be barristers or something earning ££££££££££ insted of doing the ****ty jobs we do for a pittance

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    Re: Towbar = need for tachograph

    The bit i forgot to put across and don't get is ,just becuase there is a tow bar fitted,how can they possibly fine for not having a tacho fitted you if you are not towing anything at the time and you are not over loaded,

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