we are leaving the eu

**rockhouse** · 09-08-2019 19:33

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**Kustom Jim** · 09-08-2019 20:15

Originally Posted by heavychevy

Wayne, I am chastised but unrepentant. It is the average man who is being scammed. Brexit has cost us a lot of money so far and will cost a whole lot more.url]

Amazing, you also say if we don't pay £39 billion we won't trade with the EU.

Take a step back and try to see how other folks see that statement.

Brexit may turn out to be a huge moneysaver, try £39 billion for starters after realising that just one country, Eire NEEDS US TO BE STILL DEALING WITH THE EU AFTER DEPARTURE.

Never have so many been so frightened and lacking in confidence in UK PLC.

We have a strong hand. Boris has emerged as the only mainstream politician with the intelligence and nutsack to play the pack.

**mygasser** · 09-08-2019 20:28

Originally Posted by Kustom Jim

Amazing, you also say if we don't pay £39 billion we won't trade with the EU.

Take a step back and try to see how other folks see that statement.

Brexit may turn out to be a huge moneysaver, try £39 billion for starters after realising that just one country, Eire NEEDS US TO BE STILL DEALING WITH THE EU AFTER DEPARTURE.

Never have so many been so frightened and lacking in confidence in UK PLC.

We have a strong hand. Boris has emerged as the only mainstream politician with the intelligence and nutsack to play the pack.

here ****ing here, well said

**redoxide** · 09-08-2019 23:26

so a hedge fund manager makes a bet for or against an outcome .. he is one hedge und manager associated with the PM on a tentative link to a donation to a political party ..

On the other side of the coin there will be hedge fund managers betting things will be very different, and regardless,they will all be placing there bets in otherplaces to offset losses or increase gains ... SURPRISE... thats what hedge fund managers do... complete parasites, but thats the city for you .. no one makes doe from GRAFT its all funny money generated from immoral trading practices .. There will be opposing party donators doing exactly the same thing, its the name of the game and its all about making gains ant someone elses loss .. YEP thats what banks do with your doe as well .. an entire financial industry has grown around hedge funding..

Why doesnt the paper report in an unbias fashion and include a list of other hedge funders and the individuals they back in Government ? that would make for an interesting unbias report .. but not in the interest of the paper or the agenda they support ..

40% of the EU budget goes toward the CAP .. Common agricultural policy .. That pays for farmers in the UK to set aside land while enormous farms run by corporations in the EU countries , mainly France , receive the lions share of the subsidies .. They already produce a SURPLUS prior to the subsidies but they they sell the surplus to us .. win win , keeps prices at an artificial level, we pay Farmers not to farm and the EU reaps the benefit .. The euro has been backed by Grman banks to keep it artificially low making it cost effective to BUY from them once again we loose .. but the euro is now finding its true level and its strength against the pound may be its demise .. People might just find that its economically beeficial to remain in the UK and buy from the UK as the euro increases in strength ( or at least becomes less undervalued and finds its actual value )

Thats why the EU want us in, we stabalise the euro and subsidise the market .

**rockhouse** · 10-08-2019 08:18

before we joined the common market all you heard about was butter mountains
and all the other mountains they had to keep prices artificially high

**mattblack** · 10-08-2019 11:23

I remember reading some time ago about the EU decreeing that farmers in Sicily (IIRC) were producing too much milk, so they paid the farmers to slaughter a certain percentage of their cows. To prove the cows had been slaughtered and claim their money, the farmers had to hand in the ear of the cow with it's tag in. Let's just say there were a lot of one-eared cows in Sicily after that...

**dodgeman** · 10-08-2019 11:41

Originally Posted by mattblack

Let's just say there were a lot of one-eared cows in Sicily after that...

No there weren't, there were loads of cows with no ears at all, because they cut both ears off so they could claim for twice the number of cows that they actually owned, while still keeping them all alive obviously.

The tags were never checked.

**kapri** · 10-08-2019 12:38

I hate Boris ...HOWEVER..he seems to have enough common sense to do what was required in the first place and what I actually ( mistakenly) thought a vote to leave may create .

We SHOULD have said "that's it we're off " and let the EU come to us to offer US not to leave ,not the half arsed way it's all been dealt with to date . Not a poker player amongst them.

**stu460** · 10-08-2019 12:44

Originally Posted by kapri

I hate Boris ...HOWEVER..he seems to have enough common sense to do what was required in the first place and what I actually ( mistakenly) thought a vote to leave may create .

We SHOULD have said "that's it we're off " and let the EU come to us to offer US not to leave ,not the half arsed way it's all been dealt with to date . Not a poker player amongst them.

The biggest f*ck-up the previous government made was to tell the EU that leaving without a deal was off the table. It's impossible to negotiate if you're not willing to walk away. The so called "deal" was to stitch us up the the EU in everything but name. You can sprinkle glitter on it, but a turd is still a turd.

**kapri** · 10-08-2019 13:04

The other problem is that those 'negotiating' on our behalf have hardly ever had a real job where there are consequences as result of actions.

I used to be a sales rep in the motor trade and my job was to get someones work but at the maximum profit to us .This required a feel for who you were dealing with and when to say 'stick.