53 Ford F100

[Gmoulds1]

Hi all,

New here and to the world of custom builds etc. I've just committed to buy a 53 F100 and have pretty grand plans for it over the next 5 years or so.

As many are, the whole registration/historic plate/8 point system confuses the hell out of me, so I thought I'd ask for some advice based on what I want to do with the truck, so here goes.

-Keep the og chassis and reinforce it a bit
-fit a mustang 2 kit and 4 link for air ride
-4 disc conversion for brakes
-power steering
-engine and transmission swap (not sure what set up yet)
-other bits and pieces that don't relate to the 8 point system from my understanding.

Is there any way after all of this is done the truck can keep a non Q plate reg?

Cheers all,

Glen

[kapri]

No, there's no way LEGALLY you can do that and still be entitled to Historic status.

You can however build it to BIVA , exactly as you ask and ( if planned correctly) retian a Historic STYLE plate and pay standard road tax of £250ish.

If you want a detailed translated to English spec of how to build to BIVA and achieve what you want contact me for a copy of Dummies Guid eto BIVA ,available for £20 donation to my local hospice .

As you are totally new to this I should explain I'm not and have been involved with building and fighting legislation for over 45 years.

[kapri]

I should alos point out that SHOULD you heavily modified non 8 points compliant vehicle ever be discovered it's v5c will be removed and it will be sent for BIVA anyway .

It tends to make more sense ( well to me at least) to build the vehicle to BIVA spec whichever way you intend using it. Only drawback is that if caught you will be issued with a Q although if you submet it yourslef that can be avoided.

Nothing wrong with a Q ( for quality) , indicates inspection and does give some leeway on certain laws.

[kapri]

Nearly forgot , I'm presuming it is already registered in the UK as that should be your first move regardless.

[Gmoulds1]

Kapri, thanks for the detailed advice, that's great! I'll take you up on that offer and pm you to arrange.

The other option I'm considering since the truck is 100% original (so I've been told and as far as I can see) is to overhaul the motor and transmission and upgrade the steering and suspension. Am I right in saying that if I go down the mustang 2 kit or even a donor front end and 4 link system that would constitute both a suspension deduction AND an axle deduction based on the 8 points? Or just the suspension?

That was going to be my next question, register straight away or build first and then register but I think you've just answered that. Am I right in saying it wouldn't have to be road legal ie indicator conversion and all that stuff first before the V5c is issued?

Thanks again!

[kapri]

To stay within 8 points you'd usually go change engine box and back axle which leaves you still legal . Brakes are 'free' .

If you also change steering you are outside the 8 points system.

Likewise fitting a Mustang 2 suspension is an alteration to chassis parameters and is an immediate out of points system modification.

You will 99% be inspected before registration and the vehicle must be roadsworthy ( ie MOT passable and drivable ) to enter into Historic for the first time.

If you want to char scenarios through I'll send you my phone number by PM.

[Gmoulds1]

That's cool, thanks. Looks like build to BIVA will be the way to go for what I want to accomplish then.