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    Bugatti Owners Club, DVLA and a situation that may affect us all

    Has anyone else heard of the below? Seems a potential total nightmare. Having said that a lot of people have been taking the proverbial re chassis and other mods.

    Timothy Dutton
    17 June at 09:09 ·
    Now the BOC has finally let us know the DVLA position on historic cars just contemplating the effect on the hobby and the business. Every Historic vehicle to be re-examined, about 1,000,000 they reckon, re-dated at the age of the newest major component (body counts as a major component) and if that component is less than 25 years old a Q plate which means passing an IVA test. can't see how a special is going to keep a registration and will be Q plated if they apply the rules as per their web site. Given this is going to affect all Historic registered vehicles my guess is car sales of anything but perfect cars are going to go on hold while this shakes out, it has been that way with BC chassis numbered cars for the last couple of years. Big changes coming our way, the end of built up cars, hot rods? Reduced sales of new parts so they won't be available to "real" cars when they need them. Time to dig out "Who moved my cheese"


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    Maybe a bit more info on the DVLA, BOC have been in discussion with DVLA for the last 2 years because there was a problem with cars registered as historic that were not Historic according to the DVLA process. This is shown on the .gov website. Certain cars have had their V5's retained by DVLA prior to satisfying them that the cars deserve historic status. The reason is that Historic cars receive exemptions on vehicle testing and the EU have asked the DVLA to confirm all cars that have Historic registration deserve it prior to the implementation of the European Roadworthiness Directive in 2017. DVLA were going to draw a line in the sand and only rigidly apply the rules going forward but a body got involved and insisted that the rules be applied equally to all Historic vehicles. The process they have agreed is that they (DVLA) will send a letter to all owners of historic registered vehicles asking them to prove their cars deserve to be registered as Historic by proving the provenence of the major components, meaning a letter from the appropriate car club confirming which parts are new and the relative dates of the major components. The process is then as described on the website.Quote "Your vehicle won’t get an age-related registration number if it includes new or replica parts" with regards to cars built up from parts all over 25 years old quote "DVLA will assign an age-related registration number to the vehicle based on the youngest component used". The letter from the BOC outlines the process as applied to Bugatti owners letters are in the post from DVLA. But the same approach is to be rolled out to all Historic registered vehicles, there are at least 2 cars which are all original rolling chassis that have been assigned Q plates recently because they have had new bodies fitted to the car. One was told to grind off the original factory VIN number and stamp in the new 16 digit VIN assigned by DVLA when the car was Q plated.

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    Nah, it'll never happen

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    More info here that also includes a link to the BOC letter. If it is true then the DVLA are (not surprisingly) making a complete balls up of it by contradicting their own rules:

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    chassis number should be 17 digits and you should never ever remove an existing chassis number
    at least dick turpin had the decency to wear a mask!

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    Just been on the BOC web site and can't find anything about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 352 kum View Post
    chassis number should be 17 digits and you should never ever remove an existing chassis number
    Sorry but in the case of IVA thatas incorrect Mark. Old chassis number MUST be removed and replaced. The whole reason the car is being IVAd is because it's previous identity is deemed to no longer exist.

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    Wouldn't that have made a top dollar Bugatti chassis with traceable history into a 2 bob lump of metal

    Getting really confused with all this stuff

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    And consensus being Kev? do you think this is going to happen?...

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    If there is any truth in this, I'm surprised FBHVC haven't been involved. Personally I think this is a hoax (but I don't have any proof either way), if it isn't a hoax then a lot of classics and pretty much every modified vehicle is scrap or a museum piece at best.

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    If it were true it would be just about the first retrospective piece of automotive legislation to be enforced (apart from the fitting of screen washers).

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