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    Quote Originally Posted by ColinHD View Post
    I don't know the car, but looking at the wheels, I recon it's on a new/tube chassis.
    Full marks to that man.

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    " .... it has a space frame chassis with ally panelling bonded and riveted on, suspension is a combination of Sierra and cortina parts and based around locost geometry. Steering uses a shortened Sierra rack with a home made column, quick release boss with a Momo steering wheel. Rear diff is Sierra xr4i with lsd. Brakes are wilwood front and Sierra rear with balance bar pedal assembly. Custom made prop and driveshafts. Interior has sparco bucket seats and harnesses and the switches and gauges are all Classic Mini. All the external bodywork is stock Minor with a few tweaks to meet the radius requirements...."

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    Quote Originally Posted by kapri View Post
    " .... it has a space frame chassis with ally panelling bonded and riveted on, suspension is a combination of Sierra and cortina parts and based around locost geometry. Steering uses a shortened Sierra rack with a home made column, quick release boss with a Momo steering wheel. Rear diff is Sierra xr4i with lsd. Brakes are wilwood front and Sierra rear with balance bar pedal assembly. Custom made prop and driveshafts. Interior has sparco bucket seats and harnesses and the switches and gauges are all Classic Mini. All the external bodywork is stock Minor with a few tweaks to meet the radius requirements...."
    Got it Kev ,I assume if you buy all that name brand stuff new you just produce receipts to them and its taken as ok? (that part of it)
    If you buy a name brand chassis you can just bolt (the correct) bits on and it makes it easier for BIVA?, home made chassis would not pass or would it need certifying from a chassis builder?
    Just general ques mate im not looking for anything

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    BIVA is all about an amateur build so a chassis built at home to your own design is fine. It's design and engineering is checked but it doesn't have to be a replica of anything currently in production.

    BIVA isn't the Devil's spawn that it's made out to be.

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    Cheers for that mate, I always thought it was very hard too, but that Moggie is mostly mass produced or name brand parts apart from the chassis, and if that doesn't need certifying its just an assembly game

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    You could almost say it's like building a hot rod

    It's so hard I got this through;


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    Quote Originally Posted by English Impala View Post
    BIVA is all about an amateur build so a chassis built at home to your own design is fine. It's design and engineering is checked but it doesn't have to be a replica of anything currently in production.

    BIVA isn't the Devil's spawn that it's made out to be.
    How does that work with kit cars.they are not home built.they are home assembled using everything you have purchased from a kit car manufacturer.

    Chassis/suspension/steering/body etc

    How do they get through biva or do they just tell DVLA they made it all themselfs.


    Only ask as there's seams to be a lot of confusion about buying all you're bits from a rod shop and putting it through biva.slways seams to come up as a big no no.

    Why,s that
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    Nobody - My understanding is that BIVA can cover anything that doesn’t have an DVLA registration history.

    E.g. If you break the 8 point rule, then the old donor car no longer exists (in the eyes of the DVLA) and a ‘new’ car must be tested.

    Kit cars like Caterham and Westfield are effectively just a collection of parts to begin with, not a ‘real’ car.

    Only after they are assembled (correctly) and tested do they become a ‘new’ car with a new registration number.

    As far as I know…
    ( Note - Kapri, English Impala & BlackPopRacing will know more. )

    There is no reason why parts that you have made in your shop could not be used in a BIVA build.

    And let’s be honest, you make things to a higher standard than most OEM car companies.

    Again, as far as I know the 'Locost' types of kit car expect builders to make their chassis at home from plans and they can pass BIVA.

    Hope that helps, Paul.

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    It comes up as abig no no because people don't check facts

    It's all about the AMATEUR side of it .

    Even though the kit is bought it is still assembled by an amateur .

    If the kit is totally factory assembled then it must go through NIVA ( which requires modern spec engines amongst a slightly harder test).

    I have no first hand on putting a rodshop built vehicle though but it should be possible if the owner has say stripped painted and reassembled the running gear himself with the photographic proof of that .



    Buying a running car and trying to put it through is also a no no . Firstly it wouldn't be built to pass and secondly there will be no photograhic proof of the owners input .

    If we go way back in time before even SVA and before VAT Lotus used to have a way to save paying purchase tax by selling their vehicle for home assembly. This actually consisted of fitting the ignition switch and associated wiring . DVLA got wise and made the requirements harder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cougarv8 View Post
    Cheers for that mate, I always thought it was very hard too, but that Moggie is mostly mass produced or name brand parts apart from the chassis, and if that doesn't need certifying its just an assembly game
    The actual BIVA spec for the most part is just common sense but written down to be checked. Apart from possibly glass it involves no extra cost other than the test itself , it's all in buying the right part that complies and fitting it so it complies. Anyone that has had to build any form of race car to specs should take to it like a duck to water.

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