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    When we first did research via circulation figures ( for mags) for ANY type of vehicle modifying it worked out at just on 2 million . Obviously only a small percentage require BIVA.

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    The bad news is that despite a number of different forums covering this, the number of replies was so small.

    The good news is that even such a small number of replies can make a big difference to the final rules.

    Cheers, Paul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manxdavid View Post
    34 actually deals with the implementation.
    I thought 16 is the rational , and 34 actually deals with the outcome

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    Relieved, doesn't begin to sum it up. Well done every one who responded and worked to get the message out. I'm off for a beer.

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    Hell, only a couple of thousand replies after all. I stuck it on my facebook page, got called a scaremonger amongst other things, yet my post had over 37000 viewers and over a hundred shares. I would have expected more than a couple pf thousand replies just from guys reading my post...... just goes to show........ but, as Paul says, thank **** that couple of thousand made a difference. Thanks of course to Kev who spotted the DFT trying to push this one through quietly and quickly, or else a lot, including myself, would have missed it.

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    5% of the responses were for the proposals, what was that all about???

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    Brilliant result, but maybe the people directly affected is very small, and if the average number responded then it does seem like the numbers needed to sway a decision can be surprisingly small.

    How Big a Sample Do I Need?
    Using the chart below, select your approximate target population, then choose your margin of error to estimate the number of completed surveys you’ll require.

    Now that you have your numbers from Step #1 and Step #2 check out this handy chart below to figure out how big a sample you’ll need…

    Margin of Error Confidence Level
    Population 10% 5% 1% 90% 95% 99%
    100 50 80 99 74 80 88
    500 81 218 476 176 218 286
    1,000 88 278 906 215 278 400
    10,000 96 370 4,900 264 370 623
    100,000 96 383 8,763 270 383 660
    1,000,000+ 97 384 9,513 271 384 664

    Note: These are intended as rough guidelines only. Also, for populations of more than 1 million you might want to round up slightly to the nearest hundred.

    How Responsive Will People Be?
    We’re sorry to say that not everybody you send your survey to will fill it out.

    The percentage of people who do actually fill out a survey that they receive is known as the “response rate”. Estimating your response rate will help you determine the total number of surveys you’ll need to send out to obtain the required number of completed surveys.

    Response rates vary widely depending on a number of factors such as the relationship with your target audience, survey length and complexity, incentives, and topic of your survey. For online surveys in which there is no prior relationship with recipients, a response rate of between 20-30% is considered to be highly successful. A response rate of 10-15% is a more conservative and a safer guess if you haven’t surveyed your population before.

    This part’s easy!

    Just divide the number you got from Step #3 by the number you got from Step #4. That’s your magic number.

    So, for example, if you need 100 women who use shampoo to fill out your survey and you think about 10% of these shampoo-using women that you send the survey to will actually fill it out, then you need to send it to 100/10% women – 1000!


    PS Looks like the chart bit didn't paste properly, so maybe check out the site.
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    Actually you are all right, the low but effective response is dumbfounding considering how much it went viral.
    And how many kin thousands of enthusiasts there are who should at least support issues even if they think it will not effect them.

    2184 voted positively this time. Just checked the VHI Mot Consultation thing and 2081 voted 'positively' on that one.

    Looks like we only have a hard core of 2000 troops keeping our cultural privilege alive.

    Still, better to have a pro active group this size than a much larger group of self interested, back biting, miserable short term fashion gold chainer ****s dragging us down.

    Preserve Hot Rodding, chop up a stocker.
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    there are some proper lazy dumb ****s into modifying cars.

    it takes a few minutes out of youre life to complete an online consultations.

    may youre v5,s all be revolked
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    Quote Originally Posted by sssammm View Post
    5% of the responses were for the proposals, what was that all about???
    car manufactures?

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