Cheers Mike, hopefully catch him next time,, hoping to get some info from drayton or billing when there, Ive got Granville on the megasquirt build so fingers crossed to get him involved right through, have also found a guy in Darwen who can set up properly once running on a base map,I also did a favour for a colleague on R&S who also runs a 100E with zetec so hope to quiz him if I have any probs, good turnout last night considering Drayton weekend, How are you in the NSCC at mo?..Take care catch up soon..Steve