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  • 23-04-2010, 08:27
    dutchrod

    Re: pro build BIVA

    Quote Originally Posted by kapri View Post
    Do you need the FIVA 'passport' to be allowed , as an old 'polluting car' in city centres as in Germany ?

    http://www.the-ace.org.uk/tightening...n-germany.html
    no, a new car, like a home built hotrod would be will be registered as new so has to meet latest emissions tests. no way around that.
    older builds imported has to be pre (can be mistaken a bit, but not much off) 1995 can get a special note on registration that the car has no emission system on it (still need to be in the emissions range of cars of that construction year though)

    some realy nice kitcar guys are talking for a while now to get the rules for the registration clearer than it is now and they will make manual for it that normal people can read instead of the need to get higher education just to understand what it sais.
    i will not start on building a car before all is realy clear dont wanna throw away quite some cash just for a trailer queen. till all is clear i have other projects to work on that i know can be legal on road

    pascal
  • 22-04-2010, 23:50
    kapri

    Re: pro build BIVA

    Do you need the FIVA 'passport' to be allowed , as an old 'polluting car' in city centres as in Germany ?

    http://www.the-ace.org.uk/tightening...n-germany.html
  • 13-04-2010, 09:36
    dutchrod

    Re: pro build BIVA

    yeah we do have own "biva" test now, but like i said will be registered as new car and will have to comply to the latest emissions regulations, wich wil mean electronic fuell systems and catalic converter and that sort of stuff. when all is tested, than the expensive tax comes up. will be calculated by engine displacement, weight of car and few more variablilities and therefor the polution the car wil make and so on. as far as I know, no one has put up a home built car yet cause of the un certainties still lingering round the test. so big modern engines like audiV8's and so on are allowed and no problem at all, but the taxes will kill that idea i think

    i only put modern engine in the 35 year old kadett cause of the regulations bout not being able to drive in certain "inviroment clean" areas with older and more poluting cars. im partialy disabled and need a car to go into city centres. the car wil still be oldtimer and free of roadtaxes and cheaper insurance, but cause of the low emission new engine i wil be able to go everywhere since it will be registered as "clean" car.
    pascal
  • 13-04-2010, 09:25
    kapri

    Re: pro build BIVA

    Quote Originally Posted by dutchrod View Post
    thats why i kind of gave up the idea of a hotrod for now, and start working on a opel kadett coupe, wich wil get a 1 year old 4 banger with all the electronics to be clean and so on, just in case. not very cool, but if i want to keep on driving it for a certain amount of years i think the only way to go.
    the new rules over here to get a home built car/kitcar on the road are still bit fuzzy and till the time it gets clear, ill go the safer way with the opel. but i new built hotrod here in theory can be aproved, but would need new engine that will be in euro4 emissions area, so no way a old V8 or something. and the bigger the displacement, the higher taxes will be ($%^#$$^@$%@#[email protected]%:****er
    pascal

    I'd just heard that you'd got you've now got your own test over there in the Netherlands. It would be good to see the differences, with the engines allowed obviously being the first one.
  • 13-04-2010, 08:50
    Kustom Jim

    One life - Live it!

    Symbolism all over it...



    Did we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbour?



    It aint over till we say it's over!
    The car at the end won't pass the 8 point rule neither!
  • 13-04-2010, 08:16
    dutchrod

    Re: pro build BIVA

    thats why i kind of gave up the idea of a hotrod for now, and start working on a opel kadett coupe, wich wil get a 1 year old 4 banger with all the electronics to be clean and so on, just in case. not very cool, but if i want to keep on driving it for a certain amount of years i think the only way to go.
    the new rules over here to get a home built car/kitcar on the road are still bit fuzzy and till the time it gets clear, ill go the safer way with the opel. but i new built hotrod here in theory can be aproved, but would need new engine that will be in euro4 emissions area, so no way a old V8 or something. and the bigger the displacement, the higher taxes will be ($%^#$$^@$%@#[email protected]%:****er
    pascal
  • 12-04-2010, 20:15
    29pu

    Re: pro build BIVA

    if the regulations dont stop you old age will, been looking at some of the pics of the events its all grey hair and leather jackets, looks like ageing bikers, dont seem to be many kids with cars, in another 25 years everyone will be dead.
  • 12-04-2010, 18:21
    BIGYIN

    Re: pro build BIVA

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadrunna View Post
    Interesting change in viewpoint there over the space of an hour
    tried to keep it less of a rant ..... veiwpoint remains the same... roding is dying on its feet...same point diffrent package
  • 12-04-2010, 18:15
    kapri

    Re: pro build BIVA

    I tend to agree with you Pascal, strangely we have never been in a more solid position in one way and more shaky in another.

    Environmental issues and component supply will certainly limit our future .

    If we adapt we will survive but I fear the more 'routine' modifying of up to 10 year old cars will stop and that will effect our supply chain for many components .


    As Ian says our glory days are behind us , in so many ways .

    Personally I'm just tidying up my fleet and , after 1 more build (hopefully) , will be happy to mess with what I have now. I'll be tinkering and improving but I'm personally almost done.

    I'd say to all if you want to build anything , don't put it off ,get it done and enjoy it while you can.
  • 12-04-2010, 17:46
    dutchrod

    Re: pro build BIVA

    Quote Originally Posted by BIGYIN View Post
    I used to enjoy building cars and running a rod, then all this crap was thrust into the lime light. It put me right off. Went to Vegas to see if I could rekindle some enthusiasm for the rod scene, almost managed it, them come back here and find another one of these posts and straight away Im back to square one ... ..LOL.... The rod building scene has been prety strong in the uk over the past 25 years, probably the best 25 years its seen, I personally doubt it will last another 25, If it does there will be no where near the volume of cars built in the same period.
    TBH, i dont think the whole whatevercar scene will last that long. i truly believe that if by that time your "car" aint solar/electric powered and completly build of inviroment friendly materials, we will be walking at that time and all our cras will be museum pieces. wehter its a rod, custom or stock car.
    pascal
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