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  • 16-11-2010, 10:52
    roverman
    and this yamaha r1 powered beetle
  • 16-11-2010, 10:04
    roverman
  • 16-11-2010, 08:50
    TQ_uk
    Quote Originally Posted by streetfighter View Post
    TQ-UK Ive had the arguements with the VW site guys before, I don't think they get it, it seems to me that they think only flat four engines should be in the back of a beetle. but each to their own. How were you thinking of mating a tl/sv engine to a VW box? 2 gearboxes?
    Its all a bit hypothetical at present as have none of the 'ingredients' but yes, idea is to retain both gearboxes, possibly removing any unneccessary gubbins from the VW transaxle to leave the original reverse gear & a single forward of a suitable ratio.
    Essentially making a 'reverse' box from the VW box (and only utilising the bike clutch). As I said, it all in my head & no idea of the engineering complexities involved. Would have thought you can lighten the shell a fair bit to bring overall weight down
  • 15-11-2010, 22:22
    BaronVonVVankel
    Quote Originally Posted by streetfighter View Post
    TQ-UK Ive had the arguements with the VW site guys before, I don't think they get it, it seems to me that they think only flat four engines should be in the back of a beetle. but each to their own. How were you thinking of mating a tl/sv engine to a VW box? 2 gearboxes?
    Only one engine for a Bug... (no, its not a bike engine)...



    Or is it?...

  • 15-11-2010, 22:09
    streetfighter
    TQ-UK Ive had the arguements with the VW site guys before, I don't think they get it, it seems to me that they think only flat four engines should be in the back of a beetle. but each to their own. How were you thinking of mating a tl/sv engine to a VW box? 2 gearboxes?
  • 15-11-2010, 21:42
    roverman
    nicked from another thread



    & found on google



  • 15-11-2010, 15:58
    TQ_uk
    Quote Originally Posted by streetfighter View Post
    I plan to do a zx12 engined beetle next year some time, as a rear engined, rear wheel drive car is the absolute best configuration in my opinion. Watch this space.........
    Intrigued, as I've thought about the potential of putting a bike V-Twin (TL/SV) into a (lightened) Beetle, by mating it to the VW transaxle to retain a reverse gear, (and also leave a selection of forward gears
    to allow you to choose the best final forward ratio)

    No other than the added weight/complication of 2 gear boxes, any major reason why this wouldn't be feasible to do, also without falling foul of IVA etc?
    Peak power would 'only' be around 120bhp for said V-Twin, so VW box should be ok (ish).

    As you (streetfighter) have experience of such things (e.g the torque arguement) is there a blindingly obvious reason why my fantasy project would be a non-starter?
    All the VW forums I've seen this kind of thing mentioned say forget it & fit a Subaru etc....
  • 14-11-2010, 09:11
    anoldgit
    HI mutany v8, the bit about disabled cars way back in the 60's really jogged my memory!
    In 1969 I was in hospital for 5 months after nearly totaling myself on my Bonneville engined Triton, after numerous ops I was told I may have to have 1 arm & a leg removed !!! In the weeks/months following they saved them yippee. All that was on my mind & keeping me going was putting my tuned Bonnie engine in a powder blue disabilty thingy WOW great minds EH?
    PS thanks for your comments streetfighter
  • 13-11-2010, 18:39
    MUTANTV8
    Cracking car you have there anoldgit.

    On my "wish list" was to buy one of the old 2 stroke light blue disabled cars (remember them ;-) and fit a big bike engine but keep it stock looking to surprise a few people.

    Last time I was at Prescott there was a race car with 2 Hayabusa motors made into a V8. Unbelievably quick.

    My mate has a Lotus Elise and we go out now and again around Mid Wales, easily keeping up with the motorbikes and that thing is amazingly quick and handles fantastic, and that's with 120 brake horse.
    When I was at the Autosport show, 2 years ago I think it was, and there was an Elise there with a Hayabusa motor which was turbocharged putting out about 320 brake. That thing must be immense to drive. I really don't think people appreciate how fast these things can be.
  • 12-11-2010, 22:58
    dutchrod
    Quote Originally Posted by streetfighter View Post
    I understand the budget comments from some of you guys, by far the best way of doing it is to buy a crashed bike, pull your engine, loom, ecu and clockset, and sell the rest of the bike on ebay in every single part, you would be amazed how much a sports bike will break for, its not uncommon to pull nearly all your money back by selling every single part one item at a time.
    yeah true, but i have the LM2 guzzi already around here, so ill use that one. not that much HP, but quite some torque cause it has 1000CC convert cilinders. and ofcourse nice sound if i will put in bigger valves and bit of other nice stuff should be somewhere in 85BHP region if i change cam and valves and do little work on heads. think it will pull 400Kg car forward quite well i can get guzzi parts very cheap so that aint big deal.
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