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    QuestionEthanol fuels everywhere!?

    Hold on!

    Apart from the incredible cost of fuel currently (must be a ploy to push electric) my local fossil fuel stations have put up their Ethanol content stickers before the official September requirement.



    But wait! Word around the campfire the 98 Premium is allowed to run without the additive. Well not round here! I only have @sso or supermarkets and they run at E5

    Research suggests to avoid it in classics! Is it really going to turn rubbery bits to mush if I can't find a proper supplier?

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    I'm going lpg only in my valiant Jim, that'll take that issue out of the equation for me.
    Neil.
    need a job done on your project? i may be able to help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mygasser View Post
    I'm going lpg only in my valiant Jim, that'll take that issue out of the equation for me.
    I'm thinking along the same lines, but I'm not as far along with my project as you are, so I hope you're going to be showing the conversion in your build thread so that I can take notes.

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    Dont leave it in m/cycle plastic tanks for more than 2months, my Nephew has just had a grand taken off him for an Aprilia tank.
    They grow an inch, once you pull the tank off it wont go back on
    They all come with a special grey coating inside now on the new stuff
    Aprilia wouldn't replace the tank......bike had 320miles on it.....ouch!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cougarv8 View Post
    Dont leave it in m/cycle plastic tanks for more than 2months, my Nephew has just had a grand taken off him for an Aprilia tank.
    They grow an inch, once you pull the tank off it wont go back on
    They all come with a special grey coating inside now on the new stuff
    Aprilia wouldn't replace the tank......bike had 320miles on it.....ouch!
    Had much the same with my lawn tractor. The ethanol attacks the fuel lines, causes them to swell and this blocks the fuel flow.
    Was a real bugger to diagnose.

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    public enemy number one here, I just delivered 140,000 litres of ethanol tonight and the same last night to the refinery in Grangemouth.............. I didn't know anybody was on E10 yet, but it looks like it in Jim's picture. E5 is bad enough, E10 will be real bad. In my experience, if an old truck has come in from the States and the engine has had petrol through it recently and some in the tank, it all seems okay, but if the tank and pump have been dry, we find that as soon as the ethanol hits the diaphragm in the pump, it is ****ed, and any old rubber lines. Even a lot of the "ethanol proof" rubber hose you can buy now is okay as long as the fuel stays inside it, but if you get any on the cut end when you're fitting it, it softens and swells up badly, then leaks. We've since upgraded to quality of rubber hose we buy to try and elminate any problems.

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    On this side of the pond, we're on the learning curve with this. Just bought a couple of petrol taps for my motorbike and note that they're sold as ethanol proof. Heard that it can attack copper, and the alloy carbs are made out of. Maybe they'll sell additives, like they did when lead was taken out of petrol?

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    On the flip side, lpg is great at eating plugs and valves/valve seats.
    Had lots of experience of this with the lpg conversion company i was a partner in.
    Some right horror stories even on hardened seats and stainless valves.

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    A news article I read said that one of the reasons for increasing the percentage was to help support the £1billion failing ethanol industry!

    Now if that is true, and it was failing, then why the **** should it be bailed out? What about the multi-billion £ independent motor trade/industry that will be well and truly ****ed-over by the motor manufacturers when everything is electric and main-dealer only servicable (and as far as I'm concerned, that is the only reason the ****ers are all jumping on that boat).
    Screw EU

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    Quote Originally Posted by weldtech View Post
    On the flip side, lpg is great at eating plugs and valves/valve seats.
    Had lots of experience of this with the lpg conversion company i was a partner in.
    Some right horror stories even on hardened seats and stainless valves.
    Its fkn crap mate. LPG has been here since 1973 they cant perfect it even to this day, its like electric junk..... an expensive compromise. LOL

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