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    Ford Pilot spring ??????

    its a long shot but does anyone have a Ford Pilot leaf spring to hand ??

    i cant do the airbag thing on the modified (no room for anything!!!) so im thinking i'll just get another spring,

    but thats the problem........

    im (almost) positive the spring i used is off a pilot but i cant remember if its a front or rear spring - i knew i should of made a list of parts i used

    i just need to know the length (eye to eye) and the width please

    cheers

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    Chris, have you any close up photos of the rear end as I can't remember exactly how it is laid out . Just wondering if you could sort the problem by moving the spring perches/ mounts on the axle as the cheapest option ?

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    no Kev, nothing recent anyway, i did find this old pic showing the clearance before i greased the spring.......



    and after.....




    i think my spring is a rear Pilot one and i'm pretty sure it has a leaf or 2 missing so i reckon with a decent spring i'll be sorted, dont think i can relocate perches without re-doing the spring mount on the chassis or moving the axle forward but as the prop etc is all done i dont fancy that option unless i have no choice,

    i'll have a fresh look tomorrow

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    Could you not slip another couple of leaves in to stiffen the spring and gain you desired ride height by putting in the relevant springs (rather than replacing with a stock item as it may be stiffer but still sag if that makes sense?)
    If you moved the perches in on the axle a bit, you may be able to get away with using the same spring and gain a bit of height.
    You come this far, it may be a little more work now (redoing something is never nice) but it'll be the better option all round.
    As they say
    "nothing endures like the temporary", we've all left those bits held together with cable ties til we get home, and their still there 2 years later :-D

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    If you moved the perches in on the axle a bit, you may be able to get away with using the same spring and gain a bit of height.

    foz, surely that would have the opposite effect to what i'm after ?
    wouldn't it ??

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    Chris,

    If you measure the width of the leaves, either 2" or 2.25" this will identify if it's a front or rear Pilot spring.

    I will have a look to see if I have one, once I know what I am looking for.

    Pete

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    thanks Pete,
    its 2" wide and (approx as its still on the car) 38.5" eye to eye, thats a crude measurment taken by jacking the car up till the shackles are horizontal - savage engineering eh

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    HAve I got hold of the wrong end of the stick then?

    I thought that you set up after greasing all your bits and the car sat lower than originally expected?
    If the spring is short of a couple of leaves it won't be as strong and will sag a bit?
    There was a bit of a typo on my part too, I meant move the shakle mounts inwards a bit on the axle, that may have caused some confusion.
    If you add leaves to the spring, the spring will become stiffer so you could put in some longer ones to stop the end (shakle ends) deflecting as much. Does that make more sense.
    Let me know if I have got it wrong, just trying to picture it in my mind.
    Is everything ok except the car sits too low now so all the angles and clearances are wrong? :-$

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    Chris,

    The only meaningful measurement that you can get with the spring fitted, is the length of the main leaf.

    Take a steel rule. and measure it around the curve, from the centre of one eye to the centre of the other.

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    thanks again Pete,
    just measured it the proper way and its 40.5", but looking at the shackle angle i could prob get away with a 40"

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