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    Gear change stiff when cold ....

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    Hi all, I have a citroen c1 (dont laugh) .... as my driving instructor car ... the gear change is stiff when cold, and sometimes you really have to force 1st gear to even get it in. ... but when it warms up its much better.

    My initial thought was incorrect gearbox oil, the only thing that makes me ask is, its been serviced by citroen since new and not had a gearbox oil change done (so surely it should have the correct fluid in it from the manufactures).

    What else could cause this? .... clutch or gear linkage maybe ?

    The citroen needs special gearbox oil for some reason (total quartz 9730.A and I cant find out what viscoscity this is to change it myself, the local motor factors and halfords both said ... "main dealer mate".


    Any help would be sooo greatly appreciated ... citroen want nearlly £100.00 to swap the gearbox oil ... and I dont want to pay it if its not that ...... I'd rather spend the money on me pick up

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    Re: Gear change stiff when cold ....

    can't help
    but we have a similar problem on our mk6 Fiesta, it's quite common on the mk5/6 Fiesta and we've had it like this for 2 years, Ford reckon its worn clutch (so they can get out of a warranty repair) but it isn't as it's fine when warm and doesn't do it all the time and there is no slip when under load>

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    Re: Gear change stiff when cold ....

    Tech area would be best

    Doesn't have to be hot rod related in here either
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    Re: Gear change stiff when cold ....

    .... seems lots of people have the same problem with their car..... strange ..... I've had various mails/messages all from people with the same fault ....???

    i dont get it ...

    come on ...somebody out there must know what's wrong with it, .... we're all car people !

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    Re: Gear change stiff when cold ....

    im guessing the gearbox is connected to the g/stick via cables rather than a rod ??

    if so maybe the grease in them has gone 'gloopy' when cold and as the cables move whilst changing gear the grease wams/thins out a bit ??

    might be worth checking and maybe re-greasing - costs (almost) nowt

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    Re: Gear change stiff when cold ....

    Is it possible its the clutch dragging, if it is it will be more noticable engaging 1st and reverse gear, probably even crashing in reverse, new clutch required if so.
    If quitters never win, and winners never cheat, then who is the fool who said "Quit while you're ahead"

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    Re: Gear change stiff when cold ....

    Quote Originally Posted by rodster View Post
    Is it possible its the clutch dragging, if it is it will be more noticable engaging 1st and reverse gear, probably even crashing in reverse, new clutch required if so.
    But the gear changes are perfect when warm

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    Re: Gear change stiff when cold ....

    spoke to the so called "mechanics" at citroen today and they said .... and i quote

    "yeah yeah mate, we see it allot, ummmmmm, not sure really, I mean we can keep trying stuff, bung a new clutch in it first, then if that dont work we could change the gear linkage, yeah .....ya know..... and so on, til we sort it ...

    ...and how much is that gonna cost me ?

    " ahhh well you could get lucky and we solve it with just the clutch"

    he also told me the clutch cable could have snapped and be causing the problem ..... he must think i know f**k all about cars trying to fob me off ... so i said to him.... "i took the rubber floor mat out of the boot last week, could that have caused it?" ....."or maybe its becuase I've adjusted the balance on the stereo"


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    Re: Gear change stiff when cold ....

    why does the gearbox need "special" oil?
    is it a standard fwd 5 speed type box, or 1 of these semi auto types citroen have been using lately?
    i want cubic inches! lots of em!!

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    Re: Gear change stiff when cold ....

    lots of manufacturers use special oils in their gearboxes,, some escorts and focus models use an oil that looks very similar to trans fluid.. citroen renault and peugeot do use specific oil in the gearbox.. the problem could be clutch related but it normally works the other way round ie they get more difficult to engage gear as the pressure plate gets hot.. does indeed sound like a oil problem.. call your local manual gearbox repairers and ask them what they put in the box. or if you can wait till tomorrow i can ask one of my suppliers

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