P100 rear axle drums , are they f**king welded on or what ???!!!

[Ratty]

I know this is a question about my daily but as I also know a few people use these axles under rods I figured I'd ask .

Went to change the shoes in my Ford P100's rear drums the other day and hit bit of a problem . On taking the wheel off I saw that it looks like the drum is secured by the half-shaft end cap so I undid the 5 bolts and popped the shaft out only to be confronted by a mahuusive nut sitting round the axle end , the bugger's at least a 2" double hex and none of my sockets would go near it (You'd need a pretty thin walled socket to get in there too) .

Figured I must be going wrong somewhere , surely you don't need to go through all this palava just to get the drum off right ? Had a look everywhere else and can't see any other way of the drum being secured . Gave everything a sound belting with a complane and the drum's having none of it , and yes I had the handbrake off before trying

So do I have to go out and buy a huge socket to do the job or am I missing something here ? All help/****-taking gratefully recieved

[Hemi Bucket]

All help/****-taking gratefully recieved

Sorry mate, I don't know how the drums come off & the only ****-taking I can come up with is you've spelt received incorrectly. I hope this helps though I doubt it.

[fall-apart-dave]

You haven't done something really daft like miss a countersunk retaining screw or anything have you..? What I know about Ford P100's could be written on the back of a postage stamp with a very large crayon but I wouldn't have thought that a hub would be such a pain to remove...

[Ratty]

Al ; as always a well thought out and considered reply , I consider my **** removed

Dave ; Not that I could see mate , there's naff all on the face of the drum other that the half-shaft gubbins in the middle . I too can't imagine the job's this much of a pain , its not like it was designed by Citroen or anything , sure I'm missing something simple though ...

[scooder]

Ratty the book says "take wheel off, then remove spire clips from the studs and take off drum" The 5 bolts you undid are the halfshaft to hub bolts, they dont hold on drum, the big fecker int the midle behind them is the hub nut ( about 200-250 lb/ft).
When I did a P100 (sierra yours init) it had the thin spire clips and most broke when I got at em (the went over the hedge) and I had to beat the living out of the drum but eventualy of he popped.
Hope this helps.
Martin.

[Ratty]

Hi Martin , can't say as I spotted any clips bt I'll hopefully get a chance for another look later this week and I'll keep an eye out . I take it by spire clip you mean some sort of circlip ?

[blackjack]

Al ; as always a well thought out and considered reply , I consider my **** removed

Dave ; Not that I could see mate , there's naff all on the face of the drum other that the half-shaft gubbins in the middle . I too can't imagine the job's this much of a pain , its not like it was designed by Citroen or anything , sure I'm missing something simple though ...

Sounds like someone has replaced the rear brake shoes on a 2CV at some time in his past......

[chris]

deffo just the case of a bigger hammer needed i think fella

[scooder]

Hi Martin , can't say as I spotted any clips bt I'll hopefully get a chance for another look later this week and I'll keep an eye out . I take it by spire clip you mean some sort of circlip ?

The spire clips are flat and thin like the sort of thing that you put behind a fibre board trim panel for a self tapper to screw into, only these slide over the stud's to hold the drum on when the wheel nuts are undone. Yes the drum should be a slightly loose fit, but as you have found out they like to sieze on, and quite often the spire clips have long gone.

[Mad Mark]

Heat, thump, heat, thump, heat, pull!

When you have it off, file out the centre until it is a sliding fit before replacing. You may have to do the stud holes as well. I did this on some Ford in the past, Granada, I think.
The problem I had was the edge of the centre hole was rolled outwards so as I pulled the drum it 'turned' the lip inwards and held tighter.

Good luck.