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    Ian,

    Have you still got the manual flywheel that you had with the engine?

    Jeff

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    Sorry mate thats running in a off-roader around the corner from me

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    Ive got a manual flywheel in my van coming up to you saturday mate

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    Thinking about running Gems ECU for the time being (got a 4.6 for a song complete) so will need a manual gems flywheel.
    Either that or get the SD1 machined with the P38 timing marks.

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    Just to clarify what has been said so far.

    All RV8 sumps are NOT interchangeable. Two sump patterns are available, early and late type.

    If your front cover has a dizzy with either a crank driven oil pump or a dizzy driven oil pump, then you can fit the early type sump complete with oil pickup. This oil pickup bolts directly to the block roughly mid point of the engine.

    If your front cover does not have a dizzy then you need the later sump which has a long oil pick up which bolts to the underside of the front cover.

    The shape of the later sump is different at the front and has 1 extra bolt in the flange pattern.

    Naturally, no matter what sump you use, you need to check clearance of the crank. For the larger stoke engines you may need to panel beat the sump near con rod no2.

    If you have a crank driven oil pump and you want to use the standard oil cooler take off points, then unless you use the OE return pipe the oil will bypass the oil cooler. This return pipe has a special end piece which ensures flow around the cooler. Therefore a basic m20 jic connection will not work unless you somehow incorporate the original equipment end detail.

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    Denis,

    Thanks for the reply, interesting info. The engine that I have is out of a 1995 HSE so I'm unsure which type of sump this will have. I'll keep an eye out for the oil cooler business too

    Jeff

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    Quote Originally Posted by fozwanger View Post
    Denis,

    Thanks for the reply, interesting info. The engine that I have is out of a 1995 HSE so I'm unsure which type of sump this will have. I'll keep an eye out for the oil cooler business too

    Jeff
    Hi Jeff,
    If your engine has a Distributer then the early type sumps will fit. These sumps are from the P5's P6's SD1 and 3.9/4.2 lumps.
    If the engine does not have a dizzy then the later sump will fit. These are from 4.0/4.6 lumps without a distributer.
    The early sumps have a symmetrical bolt/flange layout whereas the later have one front corner cut at 45 degrees to suit the oil filter location.
    Which type you need is basically down to whether the front cover has a dizzy or not and not based on the type of engine block as all blocks are externally the same.

    Regards Denis

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    Den,
    The oil cooler pipes are intriguing me, what do I need for the oil to flow, an Inline pressure relief valve?

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    Quote Originally Posted by v8ian View Post
    Den,
    The oil cooler pipes are intriguing me, what do I need for the oil to flow, an Inline pressure relief valve?
    Ian,
    I must assume that you do not have the OE oil cooler pipes as if you did all would become clear.
    The gallery from the oil pump to filter is uniterrupted and is like that to suit versions without an oil cooler. The OE oil cooler return pipe has an extension on it which pokes about 30mm beyond the o ring. This extension is blocked at the end and prevents the flow of oil coming directly from the pump. The extension also has a hole in the side which allows oil to flow to the filter after it has gone through the cooler. Hope that makes sense. I suppose if you somehow plug the gallery close to the filter inlet it would work the same. Or ali weld an extension like the OE item to the M20 fitting. I am going to use the end of the OE pipe and fit a 1/2" solid pipe to SS braided hose adapters.

    Regards Den

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    Hopefully collecting the motor in the next week or 2 so I'll keep you posted. If it's the earlier type that'll help me out no end (with all other things as well)

    Jeff

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