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    Quote Originally Posted by fozwanger View Post
    Hopefully collecting the motor in the next week or 2 so I'll keep you posted. If it's the earlier type that'll help me out no end (with all other things as well)

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    Jeff, If the engine is original and you know it's capacity (3.9 or 4.0 or 4.6) then the sump type can be identified now. Except if it came from a TVR.
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    Last edited by DEVONMAN; 11-02-2011 at 17:46.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEVONMAN View Post
    Ian,
    I must assume that you do not have the OE oil cooler pipes as if you did all would become clear.
    The gallery from the oil pump to filter is uniterrupted and is like that to suit versions without an oil cooler. The OE oil cooler return pipe has an extension on it which pokes about 30mm beyond the o ring. This extension is blocked at the end and prevents the flow of oil coming directly from the pump. The extension also has a hole in the side which allows oil to flow to the filter after it has gone through the cooler. Hope that makes sense. I suppose if you somehow plug the gallery close to the filter inlet it would work the same. Or ali weld an extension like the OE item to the M20 fitting. I am going to use the end of the OE pipe and fit a 1/2" solid pipe to SS braided hose adapters.

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    That sounds like its a system that only runs when the oil pump is running on the pressure relief valve, do you know if the cooler outfeed runs to sump or engine??

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    Ian, The cooler outfeed (ie return pipe) runs into the filter and through the filter to the engine gallery. The relief valve returns oil to the pump inlet and is separate to the oil cooler circuit.
    Cheers Den

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    Den,

    1995 4.6 rangy

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEVONMAN View Post
    Jeff, If the engine is original and you know it's capacity (3.9 or 4.0 or 4.6) then the sump type can be identified now. Except if it came from a TVR.
    Regards Denis

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    Quote Originally Posted by fozwanger View Post
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    1995 4.6 rangy

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    Jeff, It will therefore NOT have a dizzy and will have/need the later sump with long pickup. Unless of course you fit a front cover with a dizzy and run carbs or an appropriate ECU.
    Regards Denis

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    That explains it then, we were both right the blocks are all the same sump flange and the front covers are different!
    Regarding the oil cooler plumbing, in many RV8 instalations the oil filter is a problem poking so far fwd like it does amnd you usualy need to fit a remote filter, this is the way I found easiest to plumb the cooler in
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueGenePop View Post
    That explains it then, we were both right the blocks are all the same sump flange and the front covers are different!
    Regarding the oil cooler plumbing, in many RV8 instalations the oil filter is a problem poking so far fwd like it does amnd you usualy need to fit a remote filter, this is the way I found easiest to plumb the cooler in
    Hi Bluegenepop,
    Yes indeed it's the front cover that descides the sump type. I have two RV8's and like you one has a remote filter /cooler take off . On the other the filter space is not a problem so I will be using the OE oil cooler take off points on the serp type cover which gives a neat arrangement.
    Regards Denis

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    So will the 4.0 V8 manual flywheel trigger the ecu?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fozwanger View Post
    So will the 4.0 V8 manual flywheel trigger the ecu?
    If the flywheel has the ring of tags on it's rear then yes it will trigger the ECU. You said earlier that yours was a 4.6, so is the flywheel from a 4.0?
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    Denis,

    I'm using a manual box and the 4.6 was an auto so to save lots of grief I was wondering if it would be easier to use 4.0 manual flywheel to trigger the ecu. Just need to get it remapped

    Jeff
    Last edited by fozwanger; 12-02-2011 at 08:34.

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