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    what engine ?

    Following on from the left or right hand drive thread earlier which in general concluded that maybe left hand drive is the way to go (better for selling outside of the UK).
    My question is, what sort of engine would best in a rod for selling abroad ?

    Chevy 350.....maybe fuel costs too much for a buyer in Europe, but ok for selling to the USA ?

    Rover V8.....maybe hard to get parts outside the UK ?

    Pinto......maybe good for Europe, not so good for the USA ?

    UK sidevalve......looks the part in a 'period' rod but may put buyers off cause its old and lacks power ?

    Whats your thoughts ?

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    id go for a modern hotted up 4 pot, something like a zetec or ecotec,
    that way parts availability is good here, in europe and id imagine in the us, plus it should be good enough on fuel to keep everyone happy

    looks a bit **** though so maybe not so good for an 'open' car

    tis a good question KL, is there an engine that would make a worldwide rodder happy

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    Generally most people want a V8 of some description ,especially the 'universal '350, parts available everywhere. There isn't a huge market in Europe and a lot of it ,especially for newcomeres ,is tending towards the trad side nowadays.

    As I've said elsewhere GRP is falling out of favour as it becomes difficult to register under Historic in some countries.

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    I wouldn't use a sidevalve unless it's in a special, a Pop or a Y. They are niche market in my opinion and a lot of people are scared off by them because of old, obsolete expensive technology. Most people already have a crap 4-cylinder in their daily and don't want another one in their weekend car...

    Don't get me wrong though, I love sidevalves and I love winning races in them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimleonard View Post
    Following on from the left or right hand drive thread earlier which in general concluded that maybe left hand drive is the way to go (better for selling outside of the UK).
    My question is, what sort of engine would best in a rod for selling abroad ?

    Chevy 350.....maybe fuel costs too much for a buyer in Europe, but ok for selling to the USA ?

    Rover V8.....maybe hard to get parts outside the UK ?

    Pinto......maybe good for Europe, not so good for the USA ?

    UK sidevalve......looks the part in a 'period' rod but may put buyers off cause its old and lacks power ?

    Whats your thoughts ?
    Remember the rover and pinto both came from the usa,
    Here to help !

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    Quote Originally Posted by farncombe pop View Post
    Remember the rover and pinto both came from the usa,
    but they didnt want the rv8 even back in the 60's

    dont know about the pinto - other than the cars used to blow up too easy

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    im a V8 junkie, the model T runs a rover , the race car is a 440 mopar , the camper is a 360 mopar and i just got a mercedes with a 5.6 litr v8 so i supose im a little biased BUT i see a lot of people using japanese running gear, its relatively cheap , spares are easily available and its more reliable , lighter and more powerfull than an old pinto (or some V8s). a lot of people (me included) have never looked at these engines but most are a work of art, look at the lexus v8 engine, loads of power, rear wheel drive and 100% reliable. then you get the supra engine , again loads of power and very tunable on a budget. i agree that they dont look the part (except the V but they are a good reliable engine to use if you want to use the car on a regular basis (big V8 12 mpg, same power jap 4 pot 35mpg).
    anyone want to buy a good rover V8 cheap

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    Cant say that I've seen too many rods with Jap motors, may well be because of the way they look, or perhaps that most of the modern ones come with a crap load of wiring and boxes. Also, is'nt there a bit of a stigma about putting a Jap motor in a rod (when i say rod, I mean early style type car, ie pre war).

    Thinking again about a Rover V8, maybe not such a bad choice if you used something from a Range Rover. Range Rovers are in Europe (and the USA now) so may not be so hard to get parts. However, something from like a SD1 could prove a problem as I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) it is different from the some of the RR models.

    Further question is, would, thinking outside the box, fitting something too different put off a buyer ?
    Last edited by Kimleonard; 07-11-2009 at 10:12.

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    LightbulbPre 73 Rules !?

    Id'a thought nowadays the main factor would be getting in under the Pre 73 Smog type issues!?

    Which leads nicely into Chevy 350 territory supplied with a pre 73 receipt type thing like what I got for mine!

    Are 'crossflows' in that period? Yonks ago a mate had a built crossflow in an Escort Estate (pink of course)
    and that went like stink. They'd probably work a treat in a lightweight hot rod.

    Just seen a feature in CC and a firm http://www.powertorque.co.uk/ptr_engines.html
    can build a blown 300 bhb Duratecs for £7k if you want mpg
    But then wouldn't you end up having to put cats on or summat!?
    "I'm not going to take this defeatist attitude and listen to all this crap any more from all these people who have nothing except doomsday to predict."
    Carroll Shelby

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    Quote Originally Posted by farncombe pop View Post
    Remember the rover and pinto both came from the usa,
    Aha, the old pinto myth, The "Pinto" US spec engine was not a Pinto as we know it, its totally different, and in fact Ford have a name for it, its the Lima, although it was similar looking, the 2.3 is Huge compared to the Euro pinto, ans as far as I am aware the only bit from the US pinto that fits the Euro pinto is the oil filter!!, saying that, the euro spec 2.0 was sold in the US but built in Germany and exported to the US for fitting into their cars, and was also imported in the the Capri,

    Rover V8s the basic internals of the RV8 are obviously Buick, SD1 was not available in the US, but I think it was sold in Canada, SDi engines share the same basics as the range rover, but flywheel is different, so is the timing cover, water pump, and comp ratio/pistons, All rover/Buick stuff is available in the US if you know where to look,
    Just for info, a good place to start is TA Performance.

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