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Hello,

Had this a little over 2 months. Bought from an infamous guy in Edenbridge, Kent. Aiming for a Traditional Rod look on this, like something outta the 40's...









Its a 1930 Chrysler CJ-6 Businessman Coupe 2 door with a rumble/dicky seat. Currently running a 1953 Plymouth p24 218 Straight 6 flattie. Got a few problems on the coupling with the original 1930 Chrysler bellhouse and 1935 Dodge D2 gearbox, hoping to iron that out as soon as possible.
 

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Weekends work...

Hello all, been up to my eyes in work of late but reserved this weekend to sort out car bits. My girlfriend is 6 months pregnant so any time down the workshop is becoming a rarity! Thanks to drillmastertommy for putting me on to ColinD, I took a trip up the M40 to visit him and solve a few problems.


I purchased a bellhouse, gearbox and carburettor.



Plan for me will now be to systematically strip the body off the chassis, research to pros n cons of acid bath dipping, strip the running gear off the chassis, replace with my new bellhouse and fit that starter i had shipped from Cali. I will then need to work out which gearbox would be best, the new 50's Plymouth one i've bought or the 1935 Dodge D2 one that i have already. Thoughts and opinions on tha appreciated greatly!

Hope everyone had a great weekend!
 

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Wow,nice car almost to good to rod? But when I read what you have planned , good on you sir, I think I would go slightly more modern? Cannot wait to see this pan out,don't give up,be worth it however long it takes? You will regret it if you do? Take it from me this car will be salvation away from the family problems..
 

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Good luck with it I think you have something special there
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Plan for me will now be to systematically strip the body off the chassis, research to pros n cons of acid bath dipping,


The body of my Ranchero has been dipped and I have to say I personnaly wouldn't bother.

Pros:
Removes every trace of paint & filler, saving no end of time.
Doesn't distort thin metal like blasting can.
Removes SOME rust.

Cons:
Doesn't get inside body cavities, rust will remain in there.
Capilery action gets it into body seams so it can cause problems when painting (unless left for a long time to dry after being thoroughly rinsed).
It is expensive (I think my Ranchero was just over £1,000).

If you just want to remove paint, it might be worth considering, but if you've got heavy rust in seams etc, I'd go for a decent blast-cleaner (who is used to working on car panels).
 

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Its good to talk

The body of my Ranchero has been dipped and I have to say I personnaly wouldn't bother.

If you just want to remove paint, it might be worth considering, but if you've got heavy rust in seams etc, I'd go for a decent blast-cleaner (who is used to working on car panels).
Its good to talk. Yeah I've heard all the horror stories from dipping but i'm still on the fence. The gauge of the steel on this old girl is really quite thick, built to last approach. The last thing I wanna do is drop my car body off at an Acid Dipping place and go back to pickup a carrier bag of bits. It also looks like someone tried to repair parts of the car with fibre glass so I'm unsure how a dip would affact that also... not that i'd keep the fibre glass patch jobs because I'm not a fan.

Anyone know a good body work specialist in the Crawley area? Might pay dividends to have a chat with someone in the trade?
 

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Cheers lads!!

Had a 60th birthday bash for my Dad on the weekend, lots of people came including two great engineers who've known my Dad for many a year. By way of motivating me to get my Chrysler fixed up and giving a few of us petrol heads a chance to have a good chat they both brought they're cars...




You might agree, both beautiful cars and about 100% better than any new piece of expensive S#%T car that was in the parking lot! If Chris or Brian should see this, thanks guys, really appreciated you motoring down!! Hope sunny Worthing was good for you too!
 

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After what seems an eternity I'm back at working on the coupe...

The strip down has begun and my oh my what a rusted pig she's turning out to be! I certainly knew I was getting in to something quite labour intensive the day I bought it but its just so relentless! It seems like one nut & bolt in ten wants to play ball! Its now become pretty clear that where nuts have corrodded to something that barely resembles a nut im having to break or drill every fixing out. She's over 80 years old and i know I have to be understanding but its that moment of realisation that i'm going to be here some time that finally dawned on me on Sunday.

Oh well, its my first real project that I'm doing, more or less on my own, and I'm enjoying it.

I've managed to unseize the engine, diesel down the bores worked out well enough, and I started to strip her down fenders/wings first...















If anyone has any tips on getting these pins out the door hinges I'm all ears, they're in there tight as tight. I'm guessing penetration oil heat and patience?!

Duds
 

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that looks like it'll be a nice project, looking forward to the end result. Best bet on the hinge is heat & soaking, though you can try heat & candlewax, not sure if itll work on a pin but it does work rusty bolts.
If youre gonna smack the pin out when your using heat just be careful that you dont bend the hinge as they are a pig to straighten. & yes ive fucked em up before now.
If you need parts try the pre50aac, best person to contact would be Colin Rogers. Home | Pre50 American Auto Club .
 

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Hey, thanks for the heads up for finding parts!

For the hinge pins I had someone suggest freezing water in straws, heating the hinge then applying the frozen straw to the pin to shrink it, everyones got an opinion and thats whats good about the forums. Thank you 421gto!

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Progress

A weekends progress. Stripped the front end down with bonnet off, rad off, dash out, windscreen out, side lights off and some engine ancillaries removed.

Really struggled with those f***ing door pins but after some persuasion, heat and penetration oil they gave in with only having to drill one out.

Well here's a few pics to show where I'm up to. Thanks for looking.















Hopefully get some time next weekend to take the tub off :tup:
 

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Good job I spoke to a friend on the weekend! It totally escaped my mind to brace up the door openings before lifting the tub! Could've been a big mistake.

Still looking for Plymouth engine parts for a 1953 218 flattie if anyone has any leads or ideas, love to know em!
 

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update...

Had a great weekend working on the CJ. The body is completely unbolted from the chassis now but is retaining its floor pan which is probably helping to retain the shape and rigidity of the body. I dont know why but i thought the body would come up off the floor pan and then I'd have to unbolt the floor pan from the chassis but evidently I was wrong. Also interestingly there was wood seperating the floor from the chassis in the cab section but not behind, I guess thats noise deadening.











Now this stumped me, I had no idea that this hole was for doing a static setup but i think its a great idea...



I really dont like the look of these pistons, I spoke with my Dad and he seemed to think that they may have been damaged when installed but others have suggested its just running damage/knocking/pinking etc an its perfectly fine?!




Well thats a little update of progress, I'm hoping my Mrs will be splashing out on some car parts for my christmas present and I'm pretty sure Santa would agree that I've been very good and deserve a set of Fenton Headers and an Edgy Head... a guy can dream huh?
 

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Another weekend off work...

Everyone is busy Christmas shopping so I hid in the garage, its the location of choice in the consumer nightmare month of December.

Task was to strip the remaining ancillaries off the 218, unbolt the block from the bellhouse, pull the block out then take out the bellhouse. All of this had to be done without an engine lift, one thing I dont have, I've got a rig to mount it on, just nothing to make my life easier getting it out. Remarkably nearly every bolt was loose, i didn't skin my knuckles AT ALL!

So I made a ramshackle jig to hold the engine while I whipped the bellhouse out to take the strain off my back lifting the chunk of iron/block.


For those that have read the entirety of my posts, you'll know that the bellhouse was the original 1930 CJ bellhouse which was never able to accomodate the starter against the 50's block. It was finally time to drop it out, and drop out it did.





A little bit brute force and ignorance and that engine was out and I'm another step on the restoration road.




So, next weekend off is the 22nd December, might throw a Christmas party, invite some people round and coerce them into the garage to pull the body off!

Until then I got tidying up to do...
 

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Took my top off...

Its official, I'm the proud owner of alot of bits... rusty bits.

The body is now off and the chassis is exposed, happy days. Only took two young guys and two old farts. Strange thing is I watched a program on the tele box the other day and it looked like two chaps can easily lift the tub of a same era Ford Coupe?! This thing was an absolute monster!

Pre lift...


After the lift...










Now would be a good time for people to point out any glaring errors or forseeable problems I face now that we're down to the bare bones! One thing I've noticed is that it appears something has been cut off and I'm not sure what it did, see pic below...



This is on the outside of the chassis, hidden by the "skirt" over the chassis. On the opposite side of this is where the rubbers are attached to the inside of the chassis to receive the bellhouse. Anyone got any thoughts? Looks like whoever cut a part of it off made a real mess... annoying.

Plenty to be getting on with over Christmas then!
 

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What a DAY!

Took a trip up to see a friend I met on this very forum ColinD to close a deal that has been brewing since the end of 2012. Colin is a great chap and I'm really grateful to get my greasy mits on some more mopar parts. Thanks Colin!



Now to lock myself up in the garage and get to work... theres quite alot to do!
 

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That's so cool-only prob i can see is finding all the bits you've squirreled away:rule:
i think if i cant build one complete 218 engine out of the three i have then i'll give up all together!

ever since i saw this engine rebuild video, i always think of the bits left over when you finish!

 
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