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Posted a little tale of our trip to go and get this t'other day, but a mate called round on his 1980 Shovel and I thought they looked good together... If anyone else has one of these and knows of where to get bits etc. (or just wants to exchange notes) feel free to give me a shout. Sorted the gear linkage with some polyurethane repairs to the original perished rubber bushes, re-adjusted the rods as per the book and we now have a lovely change. Pressure washed loads of sand and the like out of the box sections and squirted them full of oily goo in an attempt to stave off the dreaded tin worm. Tracing and curing rattles at the moment, mostly seized fixings that weren't fully tightened up... and lots of metal on metal panels, will fit some compressible draught excluder type foam between them before fixing - should do the job. Will delve into the steering box at the weekend...



And t'other day's thread... http://www.rodsnsods.co.uk/forum/topic/dodgey-adventure-514417
 

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i bought the truck over here from a good mate of mine who is also a mopar nut/wheeler dealer it came from willows ca which is just about all agriculture & very sandy ground , cant remember now but it was either an ex usaf vehicle or an old pg&e utility truck when new , there was an official sticker in the cab as i recall when i sent it to nick something to do with unauthorized passengers thought you might find this info interesting it is a great looking picture & a great looking truck i,d love to have it back now its done ! RAY A in sf
 

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Cheers Ray, I find any and all of its history interesting. Who knows, that may have been genuine Willows sand that I flushed out of it... whatever it was there was a lot of it and it looked like it had been up there a long time. As for "now it's done"...ha, I reckon you know as well as anyone that they are never done - the more I look, the more I find...
 

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Is this the one that was on eBay some time ago?
I loved the look of it, but had already bought my F100.
Really pretty truck and they look good together too.
 

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Yep, was on eBay a good few months back and was far too expensive for me... The chap who owned it re-listed it as an auction, mine was the winning bid and I collected it from Ilkeston a week or so ago. It is a very pretty truck, a bit of a departure for me as most of my stuff tends to be more workman like. Needs a bit of t.l.c. as it's been a bit neglected in places but it's well solid in the main so we'll see how we get on. Generally I've been cleaning half inch thick sealant off various bits to get to them with the oil can and the grease gun, may be too late for the steering box tho' as it was dry and rusty inside...
 

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Truck's been out and about a bit over the course of last year; Hot Rod Drags, a few local drives and a cruise from the King Billy pub in Bristol, where we somehow ended up leading despite not knowing the route...





Last few months it has been tucked away in the garage tho' where it has been too cold and too cramped to get any work done. Now the snow's gone it can live outside for a bit, makes life a whole lot easier. I've fitted some universal window rubbers and sealed the windscreen so it no longer leaks like a sieve - still a little rain gets in but no where near as badly as before. The window rubbers aren't an exact fit and are sealed into place rather than clipped, but they do their job, tidy up the doors no end and stop the glass rattling.





Hopefully, all set for Wheels Day...

 

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Pretty sure I sent new front & Rear window rubbers ,door weatherstripping over with it when i sold it to Nick you might want to contact nick at Dixie motors & see if he has any bits n pieces laying around for it amongst his Mopar hoard ,he had it sat in his shop for ages before he cut it loose ,great looking truck have fun RAY A in sf
 

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Cheers for that, Ray and thanks for the compliment - I still get a kick out of how much folk like this thing. It had the new front and rear screen rubbers fitted before I got it but the front was leaking pretty badly as they'd been fitted dry. The rain was building up at the bottom corners of the screen and coming in between the rubber and screen frame; I've "gooed" it and now it seems to be finding its way in between the rubber and the glass. Oh well, it's dark and wet out there now... The universals on the door glass are probably my best bet for now as the originals are supposed to fit to the quarterlight rubbers - almost non existent in places - which I've now "rejuvenated" with some liquid rubber from a tube. Having fun is the intention - hopefully it will go through next week's m.o.t. without too much drama.
 

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Good luck with the MOT !:tup:
Thanks, mate... Been doing various small jobs when the rain has allowed, so pretty much everything works now. Still a bit concerned about the steering box play tho', we'll see what the tester says...
 

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Great photo :D
 

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Finally got around to tackling the noise and heat issue in the cab... Pulled the doghouse apart and found that most of the bolts were missing, huge gaps between the joins, and the rear panel was pretty shot - way beyond my welding talents. So, to cut a long story short it was repaired with whatever I had handy. Twas then insulated with old camper insulation and covered in aluminium foil tape. Computer server rack cage nuts were just about the right size to fit the floor and the whole lot bolted down nicely after a quick tart up. Thankfully the floor was in fine condition. Cut about an old Triumph air filter as the original was missing and added some chequer plate rubber mat and we can now hold a conversation at normal road speeds! Quieter, better insulated, and better looking (all on the cheap). Well chuffed.







 

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I'm lovin' that little truck, does it still have the "leanin' tower o' power" /6 under the hood,?
I have a 225 + parts waiting to go in something someday, forged rods and pistons, ,Aussie roller rockers, Crower solid cam kit, they are great engines for what they are.
Nice job on the doghouse repair:smoke:
 

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Spencer and 68RR, yes it does still have the "leanin' tower of power" - Kev Rooney called it that when I bought it, hadn't heard the expression before. It's the little 170c.i./2800c.c. with about a hundred brake, and a three speed column shift. Enough to roll about but certainly not enough for wheels up standing quarters. Love the idea of tuning the six, but at the moment the priority is making it steer - sort that and it will be much quicker all round.
That 225 of yours with all the nice bits sounds like it could be fun. There's an A100 guy in the States with a cool 225 in an old '29 Dodge truck, nice to see something different.

 

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Posted this on the Vintage Vans forum so thought I'd copy it here with a few tweaks...

Woo hooo!!! My truck actually steers! Having never so much as seen one of these before I bought it, let alone having driven one, I had no standard by which to judge the steering on mine other than it was crap. There was serious play at the steering wheel which meant every bump and shimmy required about eight inches of steering, the first four of which did little or nothing and the second four graunched the road wheels about a bit. Manoeuvring at parking speed was a hugely physical struggle that normally left me dripping with sweat and parked at some strange angle compared to everybody else... well... something had to be done.
I bought a used, but useable, box from a guy in Illinois - two days later it was here in England, a week later after clearing customs, it was with me.
It felt okay, but the adjuster was wound in and it looked like a strip and clean wouldn't do any harm.
On stripping it I found one of the nylon bearing cages had broken up, but the worm and roller were in fine condition.
I stripped my existing box and luckily one of the cages was still intact.
I renewed all the balls, found a couple of generic metric seals that I managed to fit and flushed the casing clean.
Putting it all back together is about as simple a rebuild as you can find - there really is bugger all to these things.
I spent an hour or so shimming the end float, no factory tools, so I went with feel - took a while.
Refitted the cross shaft and cover with a home made gasket.
There was some surface wear on the bearing races, but this is a steering box on a truck that it is unlikely to cover many miles - it's not a motor with a shaft spinning at high r.p.m. so I didn't consider it a problem.

I've filled the box with steering fluid, but if it finds its way out I may go to a liquid grease. For now tho', we have no leaks.

Whilst it was all out I flushed out and greased the column bearing which had been a bit rough, rebuilt the indicator (flasher) switch and made a spacer for under the steering wheel.

So what's it drive like? Absolutely transformed it. I no longer brace myself when I see oncoming trucks, or panic when I use the brakes or have to take a hand to change gear. Yes, it still wanders, but that's a characteristic of the beam axle and cart springs, but I can correct it now with a gentle one handed pressure on the wheel.
So chuffed.

It's not perfect, but probably as good as you will get. I doubt the wear on the races will affect it, I did try to find complete new bearings but failed dismally as none of the suppliers I contacted could get anywhere near them. Over here or over there. Simple satisfying job, but you will need a pitman arm puller, thankfully a Dart owning friend was good enough to lend me his. Total cost including shipping and customs was about $300 - value wise, probably the best $300 I'll ever spend on it.

The pic's show the bearings and oil seals I bought ($10?), and the condition of the worm and roller in my existing box compared to the replacements. The originals had nearly worn to points in places and had sharp edges, not surprising as the box was full of California sand when I got it...





 
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