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......I hope you have deep pockets.

There are very big price increases on the way :(

We import & export a lot of stuff - we have been advised the the new shipping costs and the new customs charge on all shipments coming in will increase our raw materials costs by up to 20%
We also have EU customers advising us they will no longer buy from us as the customs/shipping charges make it non viable.

Business is going to get a lot tougher soon - as if Covid was not bad enough :(
 

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If this is the case it will also affect people who didn't vote for Brexit.

The positives might be that it maybe cheaper to manufacture some items now in the UK. Plus, this sounds like it will cause some inflation, in which case the B of E base rate will have to go up which will incentivise some investment, and calm the housing market.

We're a trading nation, so where there's a will there'll be a way in circumventing some of the bureaucracy, or finding new markets.
 

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Who can say what might be as a result of Brexit or covid; the timing was perfect, but I think there is a trend for buying less from China, and whilst I believe that is a good thing, it will have an effect on trade, you could easily say "for all those who wanted Biden to win the US election", we wil reap the wind with regards to any new trade deals with the US.
 

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......I hope you have deep pockets.

There are very big price increases on the way :(

We import & export a lot of stuff - we have been advised the the new shipping costs and the new customs charge on all shipments coming in will increase our raw materials costs by up to 20%
We also have EU customers advising us they will no longer buy from us as the customs/shipping charges make it non viable.

Business is going to get a lot tougher soon - as if Covid was not bad enough :(
Does that mean anyone of you who voted remain won't be affected by price increases? Shipping costs are escalating globally, nothing to do with Brexit but more to do with demand to ship goods and not enough shipping capacity. We had to pay VAT on goods from Europe before Brexit and in most cases it was higher than our own VAT and I've never had any issues buying from the USA or China for example and those prices haven't increased, why should Europe be any different apart from businesses using Brexit as a jolly good excuse to shaft us.
 

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Does that mean anyone of you who voted remain won't be affected by price increases? Shipping costs are escalating globally, nothing to do with Brexit but more to do with demand to ship goods and not enough shipping capacity. We had to pay VAT on goods from Europe before Brexit and in most cases it was higher than our own VAT and I've never had any issues buying from the USA or China for example and those prices haven't increased, why should Europe be any different apart from businesses using Brexit as a jolly good excuse to shaft us.
best out of that place and when our economy is not being held down by the corrupt eu we will do ok with the rest of the world
 

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Though I live in France Ive alays tried to buy parts from the UK....not any more, some custom cables with a value of 60 euros had a 34 euro import tax last week!
 

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I voted out and have zero regrets.

Lots of this as stated is more related to covid than brexit.steel prices increased quite a bit at the end of last year due to a foundry being down.

Though its easier to blame brexit than anything else.

It really is a good time for opportunities for business to bring stuff back in house or start sourcing from the uk.


Youre be glad to know ,uk hotrod building is unefected by brexit
 

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Yep, for every commercial shipment into the UK there is now a minimum £57 'customs' charge - thats on top of the new massively increased freight costs.

VAT was always covered as mentioned above - the increases are purely freight & customs charges.

As said, some work will now become 'in house' in the UK - which is good, but many companies rely on imports for raw materials so there is no getting round it for them. Food will certainly go up soon, and while Covid caries some blame for freight costs the major increases are due to the customs paperwork now required.
 

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Yep, for every commercial shipment into the UK there is now a minimum £57 'customs' charge - thats on top of the new massively increased freight costs.

VAT was always covered as mentioned above - the increases are purely freight & customs charges.

As said, some work will now become 'in house' in the UK - which is good, but many companies rely on imports for raw materials so there is no getting round it for them. Food will certainly go up soon, and while Covid caries some blame for freight costs the major increases are due to the customs paperwork now required.
and who,s milking the custom charges.

i dont pay that on shipments from the states or anywhere else outside the eu .

someones taking the piss and is using brexit for getting rich.i had a dhl driver here a couple of days back,and he said his company are taking the piss
 

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No matter what the reason there will always be an individual, a company, business and members of our own government (whether Tory, Labour, Green or whatever) who will take full advantage financially of any situation that is current - whether UK or international. It's always been so. First look after yourself - then your family - then whe you've set yourself up for life, perhaps the country. WW1 and WW2 saw engineering companies, metal dealers and clothing suppliers make significant fortunes. Look at the current Covid scenario - are PPE and drug manufacturers doing it for the benefits of the community? - interesting that certain MP's have links to newly set up companies importing PPE etc to HMG and health authorities without the usual bidding process........Even in more recent times (70's and 80's) when UK manufacturing industries were 'failing' and imported products replaced home produced items does anyone imagine that there wern't individuals 'pushing' behind the scenes for it all to happen so they could make a nice penny or two somewhere in the import chain. Why were some supposedly respectible 'pillars' of society so adamently against Brexit? - noses were well and truly 'in the financial trough'.
 
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Britain was once the manufacturing hub of the world. The best at engineering and all the other bits that go with it. This is a chance to regain that status, start manufacturing at home cheaper than can be done abroad and, once again, we will prosper.
 

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I'm blaming the EU for this, the common market wasformed to prevent war breaking out again by linking the economies of Germany, France and Belgium. It evolved into an organisation that was supposed to make trade easier for it's members, not to prevent it's members trading with countries that were not in the EU...
All I am seeing is sour grapes and vindictivness against the country that has stuck it's head above the wall time and time again to help keep Europe free.....
 

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One of the ironies of the disappearance of British industry, particularly the car industry, was that British products were supposed to be unreliable and of poor quality. However, now if you're restoring one of these old nails from that era the Holy Grail is to have OEM UK manufactured bits, as the imported stuff is considered of poorer quality. People say the same in the States. For example, all my best tools are either old British or Yank stuff.

The reality with all these tariffs and surcharges is that people will only pay them if they have no choice. Markets are continually evolving and somebody will see a gap in the market where they can undercut somebody else and the balance of power will shift to another supplier and/or country.
 

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Things will level out as soon as the likes of Mercedes Benz, BMW and Volkswagen complain that they are no longer selling enough cars in the UK because the taxes and tarrifs on getting them here mean that they can't compete on price with cars imported to the UK from elsewhere.
 

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Britain was once the manufacturing hub of the world. The best at engineering and all the other bits that go with it. This is a chance to regain that status, start manufacturing at home cheaper than can be done abroad and, once again, we will prosper.
In many areas the UK still does lead in terms of engineering innovation, quality and reliability - first problem is that this has to be paid for - the providers of all this want (perfectly reasonably) to get just rewards for all this - second problem is that the 'bean counters' here in the UK don't want to pay the 'just rewards' to the home grown companies - they'll be happy to let a manufacturing organisation in a third word country copy/scam the design and take a 'rake-off', justifying reduced quality of product by the supposed benefits to shareholders of reduced manufacturing costs and associated profits. Shareholders of UK companies only want to see bottom line figures and increases in their share values. Final problem is that average UK citizen is only interested in the least expensive product built to a perceived value having been brainwashed for years in to sourcing European and far eastern alternative products.
 
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In many areas the UK still does lead in terms of engineering innovation, quality and reliability - first problem is that this has to be paid for - the providers of all this want (perfectly reasonably) to get just rewards for all this - second problem is that the 'bean counters' here in the UK don't want to pay the 'just rewards' to the home grown companies - they'll be happy to let a manufacturing organisation in a third word country copy/scam the design and take a 'rake-off', justifying reduced quality of product by the supposed benefits to shareholders of reduced manufacturing costs and associated profits. Shareholders of UK companies only want to see bottom line figures and increases in their share values. Final problem is that average UK citizen is only interested in the least expensive product built to a perceived value having been brainwashed for years in to sourcing European and far eastern alternative products.
Couldn't agree more, Most of Joe and Jane Public will buy all sorts of crap of dubious quality, just because it is cheaper. complain briefly when it breaks, but throw it away and buy more cheap sh*t anyway. The blow up doll quality of a lot of stuff from the far east (looks vaguely similar to the real thing, but clearly isn't) is all that will be left eventually.
 
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