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It would appear that absolutely zero progress has been achieved in the last two years and we are still in a state of severe consternation as to what the future holds for the struggling British Car scene.
Following :- see previous report from 2012,

.Federation British Historic Vintage Clubs,
After attending the Annual General meeting of the FBHVC on Oct19th 2012, I returned home with a feeling of disappointment and the uncomfortable notion that the federation followers of both hobby and industry needed a sharp infusion of new blood with a much more aggressive, enquiring and flexible approach, there was too much of the: - "Sleep walking into oblivion" attitude about the assembly present at the meeting. On a number of occasions I noticed grimaces of disapproval when certain facts were mentioned for example: - up-grade modifications, modernizing technical specifications to take advantage of current conditions and the legislation involving the substitution of obsolete components where replacements were unavailable.
I am aware of situations where components satisfied the expectations and legal requirements of the time but with the march of progress, no longer were capable of meeting the stringent percentage figures laid down under current EU directives (disc hand brakes are a good example) Therefore it is important to monitor these limitations and fight with resolve to maintain the flexibilities allowing owners to operate rather than terminate their vehicles. It is now accepted that politicians and lobbyist will always say:-"We cannot discuss individual cases ", but this is the great stumbling block, this is where we need the technical background more than the administrator/lobbyist to breakdown this "One rule fits all "which is so prevalent in the majority of EU Directives. We need to obtain a specific technical representative with a wide spectrum of hands-on product knowledge to cover this aspect of the Historic and Special Interest vehicles.

There appeared to be a distinct attitude more in keeping with the curator of a museum than a group whose main purpose was to enjoy the ownership of a classic car, . If this organization is to prosper in the future the need to attract new membership is paramount but without broadening the clubs avenue's of interest and tolerance this will be difficult to achieve .
As the federation is purporting to be the official representative of Great Britain in respect of special interest vehicles, but who will oversee the interest of enthusiasts who are engaged in Custom- cars, Hot-Rods, Cruisers, and kit-car replica's in fact any non-standard vehicle. We cannot have a mixed assortment of official bodies all vying for attention and claiming their own particular area of expertise is at the top of the importance table ,all of these factions have to be incorporated under one flag.
At one point I felt obliged to offer the suggestion that a JENSON SP Interceptor (440ci V8 mopar) 6 pack (twin 4 barrel carburettor) with manual transmission could be considered a classic or a Hot-Rod depending on your base of operations, the days of the cloth-cap and string backs have given way to the approved crash helmet so we must learn to share each others fight to exist.
The other bone of contention was the question of the federation acceptance of the FIVA :- " Charter of Turin" which in its present form is far from being acceptable to any skilled intelligent British motor enthusiast, It appears to have been written by someone that has read a few books on DIY car restoration and been employed in the archives of a museums transport department It is so far from reality as to be actually destructive, restrictive and detrimental to the whole motorist movement in the British Isles .
The Federation must ensure that the consultation period is strictly monitored and sufficiently controlled to prevent this charter being prematurely rubber stamped into legislation before it is properly scrutinized by all 27 EU nations.

2 Years later , Having just now read the very latest annual (2014) report from the FBHVC regarding the current situation it becomes immediately apparent that the great and glorious FIVA infamous "Charter of Turin" is now the official definition of a Historic Vehicle
( The blind leading the blind, deaf and daft ?) I just give up hope.

 

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Fuel or not to Fuel ,Ask the EU ?

Can we get back to protecting ourselves against the EU invasion and other international intrigues such as :- Have you heard that a resent US Gov't sponsored survey has discovered that Ethanol fuel additive is a total waste of time, both from the cost effective angle or the beneficial effect on clean air /emissions etc. EPA ratings of 7

to 9%worse than conventional fossil fuels is not exactly what was intended to meet CARB regulations.
Having now obtained accurate statistics does the EU parliament intend to pursue its current policy and increase additive content from 5 to 10%in the near future ?. Guess we will have to ask the FBHVC the answer {weren't they doing a survey or something, never did get to hear the outcome ?.) Last I heard they screwed up big time and had to start the tests all over again.
Next ,two of the worlds leading scientists, qualified , accredited and internationally accepted as leaders in their field as advisors on climate change have resigned and stood down with immediate effect as a result of their disenchantment at the revision of their report summited to IPPCC to reflect Gov't policy rather than real-time facts.
Does this mean we can expect a U-turn by the EU on such things as CO2 emissions, green energy and congestion/pollution ? I doubt they will even know or will choose to ignore the news because it conflicts with the implementation of carbon tax ? Do you want the EU !! Better make your mind up !
 

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Telling fibs ?

DID YOU READ the discussion in "the Guardian" about Nigel Farage telling fibs about the current MOT situation? and the transport minister Stephen Hammond trying to take the credit for "Standing up for Britain" on behalf of the motorists. Now who is telling fibs?
What about "the Charter of Turin " that we got lumbered with ? ( call that standing up,I don't think so ! )
 

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Err, it's difficult to tell exactly what the outcome of the EU Roadworthiness Tesing Regulation ( now Directive ) is/ was as an updated version( including the weeks of arguments about where to put comas and apostrophes ) has not yet been published.

However from ACEs following of both written reports and watching hours of video recordings doesn't APPEAR to support Stephen Hammonds claims. Nor are UKIPs stories completely true. Yes, the EU Regulation has asked for seperation of the 2 parts of MOT work but voting for UKIP will make absolutely no difference as the boat is disappearing over the horizon.

The major change that has taken place is that the Regulation ( MUST pass straight into each members States law within 6 weeks of confirmation ) has been changed to a Directive which is a " we want you to do this but you can alter it a little bit if you can't quite make it work" firm REQUEST from the EU.

This is where /why Stephen Hammond would be able to 'save' the garage industry , however it isn't a victory as such as had it been a Regulation still we (UK) would have had no say in the matter.

Fortunate byproduct of lobbying , mainly from concerned people outside of political circles , showing the strength of feeling but 'victory' may be pushing it a bit far.

All the last MOT changes were part of a Directive. Because any Member States didn't do as asked it was represented and beefed up as a Regulation. The regulation contained much legislation, and more , which will affect later model modified cars which has passed may by because it is not a field they are interested in.
 
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