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Fabricated steel intake manifold condensation.

1K views 7 replies 6 participants last post by  Mals32b  
#1 ·
I've made a couple of steel tube manifolds for a cross flow head four banger, one single and the other for twin downdraught carbs, they worked fine except for getting freezing cold and covered in condensation.

Not good for fuel mixture dropout and rough running, thinking of maybe wrapping in copper tube to circulate hot water between rad and header tank.

Can't use hot spot cos the exhaust is on the other side, can't use warm air to carb intake.

Pic upload is playing up again but there are loads of pics online of similar setups that seem to work, so what am I missing here?

Any ideas folks?
 
#5 ·
have you checked inside to see if there is any condensation? it's probably only on the outside and caused by the flow of cold/fast air fuel mixture going through the manifold. the same as the fittings on your oxy/acetylene regulators get condensation and frost on them when welding.
neil.
 
#6 ·
The condition you describe is due to thermodynamics that are induced by the vapourisation of fuel from liquid to gaseous state thats is exaggerated by the airflow through the manifold
Look up joule tomson effect on the net to understand this phenomenon. A heater matrix of some form is required overcome this and prevent freezing ( lpg systems do it all the time hence the use of a water heating jacket on the vapourising units).
We use jacketed pipes to overcome this when designing liquid-vapour ( pressure reduction) transition pipework.
The heater pipe you describe will need to wrap tightly to the manifold and then be insulated too.
 
#7 ·
Thanks for your input chaps, I once experienced extreme carb icing after I changed the carb and air cleaner on a Series 1 Landrover and it stopped dead cos the whole inside of the carb became blocked solid with ice!

I found this article which explains the condition in lay mans terms: https://www.hemmings.com/stories/article/carburetor-icing